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Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Mon February 17, 2014 9:59 pm
by Norah
MattA75 wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:Arroyo's stats are legit. Since the trade he has been one of the most consistent players in MLB. Since going to Cincy he pitched less than 200 innings in a season once, and that was in 2011 when he onky pitched 199. Dude's a fucking workhorse, and that's exactly the type of pitcher you want. No one is saying he's a GREAT pitcher, but he's a very consistent, dependable pretty good pitcher.

Remember all those years of trying shit like Aaron Cook and John Smoltz?
he absolutely takes the ball every fifth day and that is commendable, and the Red Sox never should have traded him when they did...I'm simply saying some of his stats are helped by pitching in the NL Central, and as such, he becomes a bit more overvalued than he should be
You're probably right. His K/BB ratio isn't as good as I'd like it, so an ERA correction in a tougher division is definitely more likely than a pitcher with better command.

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Mon February 17, 2014 11:08 pm
by numbers
The arroyo trade might be the worst move of Theo's tenure here. The worst part is that no body thought it was a good deal when he made it, let alone how it looks in retrospect.

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Mon February 17, 2014 11:11 pm
by Simple Torture
I was just glad that he never got the chance to ruin another group of songs with another cover CD.

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Tue February 18, 2014 9:31 pm
by Coach
MattA75 wrote:Also, I really hope they don't take the money saved with Dempster and decide to give Stephen Drew some outrageous 1 year deal
I'm hoping that the 14 mil we offered Drew will suffice.

Hopeful that they will deploy Dempster's 13 mil in reasonable fashion.

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Thu February 20, 2014 4:38 pm
by Coach
John Henry says Fenway has 30 years left, citing structural concerns.

I understand why the current ownership, which has done a great job to fix up the old park (while putting a lot of $$ into it), would not be interested in building a new park....but still, if it's no good in 30 years or so, why not start the process now? Wouldn't that be best of the city, the Sox and fans?

A new ballpark on the water would be fantastic. But it looks like that will happen when I'm well into my 60s or 70s.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2014/ ... story.html

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Thu February 20, 2014 5:27 pm
by numbers
The best thing for everyone is to keep Fenway open as long as reasonably possible.

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Thu February 20, 2014 6:58 pm
by shinkdew
If the Red Sox started the process now they'd have no leverage to soak taxpayers for a new ballpark. They have to wait until the last minute to get the best deal. If I were them I would worry about a location now, given how fast they are developing land on the waterfront.

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Thu February 20, 2014 7:57 pm
by Coach
Isn't Boston one of the few places where tax payers did not have to pay for the new stadiums (Garden, Gillette?)

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Thu February 20, 2014 8:58 pm
by MattA75
Coach wrote:Isn't Boston one of the few places where tax payers did not have to pay for the new stadiums (Garden, Gillette?)
I think all they paid for with Gillette was about 60 million in infrastructure costs

With the Garden, they may have had to kick in some money for the new North Station but I don't believe they funded the arena at all

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Thu February 20, 2014 10:27 pm
by numbers
Menino was dead set against using tax money for new stadiums, with a new mayor I dont know if that changes.

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Thu February 20, 2014 10:55 pm
by Norah
I have no idea, but it's not like we're in a huge departure from Menino-era policies.

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Thu February 20, 2014 11:35 pm
by numbers
Personally, I dont think teams making the kind of money our teams do should be getting tax money for stadiums. It's one thing if you are a city trying to lure a team to your town, but the Red Sox can foot their own bill, they make money hand over fist.

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Thu February 20, 2014 11:36 pm
by Norah
Agreed.

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Thu February 20, 2014 11:38 pm
by numbers
a much greater issue at hand is that this motherfucker Will Middlebrooks has cost us Jenny Dell.

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Thu February 20, 2014 11:52 pm
by Coach
-- I actually met the new mayor at a recent event. Seemed like a nice guy. Wasn't a long convo, so hard to form a firm opinion.

-- Yes, losing Jenny is brutal -- those two better be in real lovey dove love. I read that NESN has not ruled out a male reporter, although that's likely a smoke screen.

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Thu February 20, 2014 11:58 pm
by numbers
Wasn't Heidi banging Nick Green when she was here? They might be getting sick of that.

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Fri February 21, 2014 12:26 am
by Coach
numbers wrote:Wasn't Heidi banging Nick Green when she was here? They might be getting sick of that.
Heidi was very high maintenance, and not very agreeable to work with. That's the book on her.

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Fri February 21, 2014 12:35 am
by numbers
Coach wrote:
numbers wrote:Wasn't Heidi banging Nick Green when she was here? They might be getting sick of that.
Heidi was very high maintenance, and not very agreeable to work with. That's the book on her.
Yeah, you could tell she must have been a bitch. When she was here Don and Remy never acknowledged her, where with Jenny or the ones before Heidi they would joke around and stuff with them.

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Fri February 21, 2014 9:19 pm
by Electromatic
numbers wrote:Wasn't Heidi banging Nick Green when she was here? They might be getting sick of that.

That's funny, Nick Green has done well for himself. I remember him back from 04 in Atlanta. Never without a nice looking lady who had some sort of relationship to media. His girlfriend here was much nicer

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Fri February 21, 2014 9:41 pm
by Coach
Electromatic wrote:
numbers wrote:Wasn't Heidi banging Nick Green when she was here? They might be getting sick of that.

That's funny, Nick Green has done well for himself. I remember him back from 04 in Atlanta. Never without a nice looking lady who had some sort of relationship to media. His girlfriend here was much nicer
Basically, MLB and PGA Tour guys really have it all when it comes to this subject.