Red Mosquito

EJ wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

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malice wrote: they aren't so much provoking reaction or emotion in people, but are instead MARKETING.

marketer in the band

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HardTI wrote:I hate that stupid effects pedal mike is using at the end of Let It Ride. He used that all during the 2003 tour. Cant. Fucking. Stand it.
What is that effect called?

EJ wrote:

malice wrote:

EJ wrote:

malice wrote: art is reactive, actually - it's a reaction to the world around the artist that is expressed through a compulsion to make something worthwhile FROM the reaction the artist has.
What art is most useful for, is being provocative.
art is best when the creative expression provokes other people to experience thought/feelings that they'd never have without that creative expression.

in this way, Pearl Jam were masters in the first ten years of their career. If they'd spent the most recent ten years doing the same thing instead of making music to connect with a large fan base, they'd expand their fan base organically, to me, instead, they aren't so much provoking reaction or emotion in people, but are instead MARKETING.

that's really well said

thanks, friend.

much of my reasons for flipping out for this band when they first started in the early 90s is in that post. I've had 20 years to think about it.
Hearing the new/old songs just reminds me of what I loved so much about them. I'm sad they don't actively do this much these days, but man oh, man- it's cool as hell to get little gems like these and remember them again like they used to be...

I'm right there with you. Glad those 2 songs have given you that spark again!

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

EJ wrote:

malice wrote:

EJ wrote:

malice wrote: art is reactive, actually - it's a reaction to the world around the artist that is expressed through a compulsion to make something worthwhile FROM the reaction the artist has.
What art is most useful for, is being provocative.
art is best when the creative expression provokes other people to experience thought/feelings that they'd never have without that creative expression.

in this way, Pearl Jam were masters in the first ten years of their career. If they'd spent the most recent ten years doing the same thing instead of making music to connect with a large fan base, they'd expand their fan base organically, to me, instead, they aren't so much provoking reaction or emotion in people, but are instead MARKETING.

that's really well said

thanks, friend.

much of my reasons for flipping out for this band when they first started in the early 90s is in that post. I've had 20 years to think about it.
Hearing the new/old songs just reminds me of what I loved so much about them. I'm sad they don't actively do this much these days, but man oh, man- it's cool as hell to get little gems like these and remember them again like they used to be...

I'm right there with you. Glad those 2 songs have given you that spark again!

uh oh, malice has a spark?!

Strat wrote:

HardTI wrote:I hate that stupid effects pedal mike is using at the end of Let It Ride. He used that all during the 2003 tour. Cant. Fucking. Stand it.
What is that effect called?

I think its his rotovibe

doug rr wrote:even this old curmudgeon enjoyed them

Spoiler: show

little levity is all

Noonie wrote:Hearing these songs is a bit like watching a loved one with early onset dementia having a moment of clarity.

Freewheelin wrote:I don't know how one would so such a thing.. It's not my scene, but I think it would be provocative to send this link on twitter to mike and stone and which ever other members have a twitter.

Noonie wrote:Hearing these songs is a bit like watching a loved one with early onset dementia having a moment of clarity.

E.H. Ruddock wrote:Did anyone think that with all the open talk and links in here about these new songs that 10C wouldn't shut it down? It's 9 a.m. in Seattle, they are just getting to work and putting the hammer down. Good think this leaked here overnight.

BurtReynolds wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:Did anyone think that with all the open talk and links in here about these new songs that 10C wouldn't shut it down? It's 9 a.m. in Seattle, they are just getting to work and putting the hammer down. Good think this leaked here overnight.

I think some one from 10c was snooping around here last night.

Noonie wrote:Hearing these songs is a bit like watching a loved one with early onset dementia having a moment of clarity.

Cleverman wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:Did anyone think that with all the open talk and links in here about these new songs that 10C wouldn't shut it down? It's 9 a.m. in Seattle, they are just getting to work and putting the hammer down. Good think this leaked here overnight.

I think some one from 10c was snooping around here last night.

They were on YouTube earlier and have since disappeared. Maybe part of an official release?

Cleverman wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:Did anyone think that with all the open talk and links in here about these new songs that 10C wouldn't shut it down? It's 9 a.m. in Seattle, they are just getting to work and putting the hammer down. Good think this leaked here overnight.

I think some one from 10c was snooping around here last night.

They were on YouTube earlier and have since disappeared. Maybe part of an official release?