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Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 3:17 pm
by hlniv
So, are we thinking that these odds reflect total requests, regardless of priority? In other words, if somebody has requested GA and Reserved to the same show (as most will, I think), then both of these requests count against the odds, even if only one of the requests can get filled?

If so, this means that even if Reserved odds are somewhat below 100%, it's more likely that its closer to 100%. For example, Memphis Reserved is sitting at 96%. But Memphis GA is 40%. If many of the GA requesters also have reserved as a lower priority, then you're effectively guaranteed the Memphis reserved seat tickets regardless of priority if you don't get GA first.

This would mean that the real chances of getting drawn for reserved seating with your 2nd priority for shows like St. Louis (52%), Detroit (49%), and St Paul (46%) are really better than it may seem.

Assuming the above is accurate, I'm thinking that Lincoln is really the only show where you might get GA as your 2nd choice (74%) , all others (46% and below) are unlikely to remain after the 1st round. So, other than Lincoln, the only shot at GA tickets is with your 1st choice - so fire only one GA bullet (unless you want Lincoln).

Despite my frustrations over no Louisville show (arrgggghhh), I've put in for the shows below.

1- Cincinnati GA
2- St Louis Res
3- Cincinnati Res
4- Memphis Res

I figure even if I'm shut out of Cincy and St Louis, the Memphis Reserved is almost a sure thing, even as my lowly 4th priority.

EDIT-
I checked the PIT for some info on my question, someone had this posted-
All priority choices are included in the odds. I emailed the ten club and their response.
"The odds tool is are separate from priority. The odds you see do not take your personal entry priority choices into consideration. The odds listed on the site are general."
So, yeah, that's how it works.

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 3:27 pm
by Dr. Van Nostrand
Nice to know, we put in for Memphis ga as first choice and reserved as our #2 so Im hoping we are sure to get one of the 2

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 4:13 pm
by CopperTom
CopperTom wrote:I may be without internet for most of the day. I'm guessing Tulsa, Lincoln and Memphis reserved odds may cause some last minute switch-a-roos. Can someone post the final odds at just before 1:00?

Here's the current odds:
Spoiler: show
Cincinnati, OH - GA Standing 41%
Cincinnati, OH - Reserved Seating 29%
St Louis, MO - GA Standing 26%
St Louis, MO - Reserved Seating 53%
Tulsa, OK - Reserved Seating 99%
Tulsa, OK - GA Standing 45%
Lincoln, NE - GA Standing 77%
Lincoln, NE - Reserved Seating 99%
Memphis, TN - GA Standing 48%
Memphis, TN - Reserved Seating 99%
Detroit, MI - Reserved Seating 50%
Detroit, MI - GA Standing 13%
Moline, IL - GA Standing 26%
Moline, IL - Reserved Seating 23%
St. Paul, MN - GA Standing 33%
St. Paul, MN - Reserved Seating 47%
Milwaukee, WI - GA Standing 24%
Milwaukee, WI - Reserved Seating 36%
Denver, CO - GA Standing 29%
Denver, CO - Reserved Seating 35%
Spoiler: show
Cincinnati, OH - GA Standing 39%
Cincinnati, OH - Reserved Seating 28%
St Louis, MO - GA Standing 25%
St Louis, MO - Reserved Seating 51%
Tulsa, OK - Reserved Seating 99%
Tulsa, OK - GA Standing 42%
Lincoln, NE - GA Standing 72%
Lincoln, NE - Reserved Seating 99%
Memphis, TN - GA Standing 46%
Memphis, TN - Reserved Seating 95%
Detroit, MI - Reserved Seating 48%
Detroit, MI - GA Standing 13%
Moline, IL - GA Standing 24%
Moline, IL - Reserved Seating 22%
St. Paul, MN - GA Standing 32%
St. Paul, MN - Reserved Seating 45%
Milwaukee, WI - GA Standing 23%
Milwaukee, WI - Reserved Seating 34%
Denver, CO - GA Standing 27%
Denver, CO - Reserved Seating 34%

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 4:35 pm
by Chris_H_2
So do those odds only take into consideration how many total requests are made for each show, or total 1st-choice requests? Because naturally you'd have different odds relative to those who picked a particular show as their 1st choice when that show is your 2nd or 3rd choice.

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 5:05 pm
by Strat
im actually looking forward to the Lincoln show! Small town midwest usually has super great shows and good crowds. Ill probably head out here for a day or so before the show to camp and paddleboard before heading onward to Lincoln:

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Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 5:24 pm
by Strat
http://journalstar.com/news/local/govt- ... b7132.html

Some people with club seats at the Pinnacle Bank Arena say the city has reneged on contract terms by refusing to let them use their seats for the Pearl Jam concert or give them a chance to buy other seats ahead of the crowd.

Tom Lorenz, the arena's manager, is being very circumspect in his answers to questions about the issue.

That may have something to do with the arena's deal with the band, which often negotiates giving its fans first chance at a venue's best seats.

At the Pinnacle Bank Arena, for $750 a year, people can reserve a club seat -- a wider seat in a prime location and with club access -- and the right to purchase tickets for most non-Husker events.

The club seat contract does warn owners that they may not always get their seat, but it says that when that happens the club seat holders will be able to purchase tickets “in the best available seating in the lower bowl of the Pinnacle Bank Arena."

However, the 800 club seat holders have not been allowed to purchase those better seats for the Oct. 9 Pearl Jam concert.

Instead they must wait until 10 a.m. Friday, when tickets go on sale to the general public.

Instead of answering specific questions about the issue, Lorenz told the Journal Star by telephone, “The Pinnacle Bank Arena is extremely happy to be one of the 10 concerts that Pearl Jam is doing this fall across the country. We are dealing with club seat issues and club seat questions by calling individual club seat holders.”

And Lorenz has one answer to other questions, such as whether the restriction is part of the Pearl Jam contract or whether club seat holders can buy tickets early if they call.

“That’s all I can say,” he said.

The story announcing the Pearl Jam concert explained that all tickets for the show are $69.50. There will be a 1,000-person standing pit on the floor. The remainder will be reserved seats.

“That’s the band’s policy,” Lorenz said when the concert and its single-ticket price were announced.

"They take a very active role in the ticketing process," Lorenz said. "They’ve always been very active and vocal about ticketing services and the way tickets are sold and priced. They’re just continuing the focus they have on taking care of their fans."

Pearl Jam's website has a section devoted to how members of their fan club can get tickets and includes the group’s focus on getting the best seats for its most loyal fans.

"We reserve the best seats in the house for Pearl Jam fan club tickets, starting from the first rows on the floor and extending back," the website says. "We also reserve the side sections closest to the stage when necessary.

"In some cases there will be season ticket holder seats in these areas, however we do our best to work around these circumstances which are out of our control."

Some of Pinnacle Bank Arena's club seats have been unavailable for other events, such as when stage configurations displace the seats, said Stan Beeder, a club seat holder.

But people were always able to buy the next best available seats in pre-sale offerings, he said.

"To me, it is just shocking they can do that," said the Lincoln attorney, who tweeted his frustration: "#pinnaclebankarena is knowingly violating my club seat license right of first refusal by not offering presale to the Oct. #pearljam concert."

The Pearl Jam website tells fans, "We go to bat for you," Beeder pointed out.

"Maybe the JPA should have gone to bat for us," Beeder said.

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 5:31 pm
by hlniv
Chris_H_2 wrote:So do those odds only take into consideration how many total requests are made for each show, or total 1st-choice requests? Because naturally you'd have different odds relative to those who picked a particular show as their 1st choice when that show is your 2nd or 3rd choice.
Read the post three above yours...

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 5:32 pm
by CopperTom
Chris_H_2 wrote:So do those odds only take into consideration how many total requests are made for each show, or total 1st-choice requests? Because naturally you'd have different odds relative to those who picked a particular show as their 1st choice when that show is your 2nd or 3rd choice.
Tickets Available / Ticket Requests (regardless of priority). = odds. It's explained on the odds page.

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 7:08 pm
by Chris_H_2
You guys are seriously asking me to do work? Pfffttt . . . I don't like Pearl Jam anyways.

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 7:19 pm
by hlniv
Yeah, reading is hard work. I always get physically exhausted from doing that

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 7:21 pm
by hlniv
Strat wrote:http://journalstar.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/club-seat-holders-upset-with-arena-over-pearl-jam-tickets/article_25d7ff52-347a-5111-8c1f-55c3c95b7132.html

Some people with club seats at the Pinnacle Bank Arena say the city has reneged on contract terms by refusing to let them use their seats for the Pearl Jam concert or give them a chance to buy other seats ahead of the crowd.

Tom Lorenz, the arena's manager, is being very circumspect in his answers to questions about the issue.

That may have something to do with the arena's deal with the band, which often negotiates giving its fans first chance at a venue's best seats.

At the Pinnacle Bank Arena, for $750 a year, people can reserve a club seat -- a wider seat in a prime location and with club access -- and the right to purchase tickets for most non-Husker events.

The club seat contract does warn owners that they may not always get their seat, but it says that when that happens the club seat holders will be able to purchase tickets “in the best available seating in the lower bowl of the Pinnacle Bank Arena."

However, the 800 club seat holders have not been allowed to purchase those better seats for the Oct. 9 Pearl Jam concert.

Instead they must wait until 10 a.m. Friday, when tickets go on sale to the general public.

Instead of answering specific questions about the issue, Lorenz told the Journal Star by telephone, “The Pinnacle Bank Arena is extremely happy to be one of the 10 concerts that Pearl Jam is doing this fall across the country. We are dealing with club seat issues and club seat questions by calling individual club seat holders.”

And Lorenz has one answer to other questions, such as whether the restriction is part of the Pearl Jam contract or whether club seat holders can buy tickets early if they call.

“That’s all I can say,” he said.

The story announcing the Pearl Jam concert explained that all tickets for the show are $69.50. There will be a 1,000-person standing pit on the floor. The remainder will be reserved seats.

“That’s the band’s policy,” Lorenz said when the concert and its single-ticket price were announced.

"They take a very active role in the ticketing process," Lorenz said. "They’ve always been very active and vocal about ticketing services and the way tickets are sold and priced. They’re just continuing the focus they have on taking care of their fans."

Pearl Jam's website has a section devoted to how members of their fan club can get tickets and includes the group’s focus on getting the best seats for its most loyal fans.

"We reserve the best seats in the house for Pearl Jam fan club tickets, starting from the first rows on the floor and extending back," the website says. "We also reserve the side sections closest to the stage when necessary.

"In some cases there will be season ticket holder seats in these areas, however we do our best to work around these circumstances which are out of our control."

Some of Pinnacle Bank Arena's club seats have been unavailable for other events, such as when stage configurations displace the seats, said Stan Beeder, a club seat holder.

But people were always able to buy the next best available seats in pre-sale offerings, he said.

"To me, it is just shocking they can do that," said the Lincoln attorney, who tweeted his frustration: "#pinnaclebankarena is knowingly violating my club seat license right of first refusal by not offering presale to the Oct. #pearljam concert."

The Pearl Jam website tells fans, "We go to bat for you," Beeder pointed out.

"Maybe the JPA should have gone to bat for us," Beeder said.
Rich people problems

There can't really be many Univ Nebraska basketball fans who like Pearl Jam anyway. Screw them. They just want something to sell.

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 7:29 pm
by scrub12
Been waiting 8 years for PJ to return to Denver, and, of course, I don't win any tickets in the drawing for either GA or reserved seating. I haven't been keeping up with the new ticket process because they haven't come to town, but this random drawing system isn't great.

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 7:34 pm
by hlniv
So, your page says "LOST" now?

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 7:35 pm
by CopperTom
It's not meant to be great, it's meant to be fair. It is fair.

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 7:38 pm
by hlniv
That's true - it is equally fair to ticket scalpers who signed up for 10C last month and for those who have been paying dues for 20 years. Yep, fair for all.

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 7:41 pm
by tooch
OH MAN EXTREMELY FAIR!!!! I joined the ten club in '93, got shut out again....buddy joined last month and scored Milwaukee AND moline. soooooo fair

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 7:52 pm
by Chloe
Might be time to stop giving them your money, friend

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 7:53 pm
by tooch
couldn't agree more...no more fan club

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 7:54 pm
by Merc
I haven't found out my results, so this isn't coming from a place of happiness or anger, but give me F5 over this crap anyday.

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 7:56 pm
by Chris_H_2
My God, how long do I have to keep hitting F5 until the page changes from "Entered" next to all of my submissions to "Lost"?