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Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Tue February 13, 2024 8:14 pm
by epilogue
stip wrote:stip wrote:Kevin Davis wrote:stip wrote:Jorge wrote:Eddie Vedder is my wife
what's your secret for keeping things fresh?
Bringing in Andrew Watt
over 100,000 posts i'm sure across multiple iterations of this board and that may be the first time I used that emoji
Big day for you
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Tue February 13, 2024 8:19 pm
by Tj
I feel a bit guilty. I gave 3 stars listening a few times today I'm not sure it might be a 2. I don't dislike it, but the very generic riff is off putting and lazy. The guitar work going .into the chorus and the solo save it. To those that gave it 5 please explain why.
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Tue February 13, 2024 8:22 pm
by Ms Harmless
Jorge wrote:Eddie Vedder is my wife
Eddie Vedder is all of our wife
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Tue February 13, 2024 8:23 pm
by coptheriotact
Maybe it’s a 4 in the context of PRAMG PJ world. Outside that it’s a 3
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Tue February 13, 2024 8:26 pm
by oneway23
Jaeti wrote:"De/Re-nounce the demigods, king diamond to discard" – This lyric and its delivery are currently my favorite moments in the song.
The King Diamond reference was a pleasant surprise
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Tue February 13, 2024 8:27 pm
by Ms Harmless
stip wrote:Jorge wrote:Eddie Vedder is my wife
what's your secret for keeping things fresh?
separate countries, and not knowing each other personally at all
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Tue February 13, 2024 8:28 pm
by Ms Harmless
Tj wrote:I feel a bit guilty. I gave 3 stars listening a few times today I'm not sure it might be a 2. I don't dislike it, but the very generic riff is off putting and lazy. The guitar work going .into the chorus and the solo save it. To those that gave it 5 please explain why.
nobody needs to explain 5, but you do need to stick to your 3
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Tue February 13, 2024 8:29 pm
by Ms Harmless
Kevin Davis wrote:stip wrote:Jorge wrote:Eddie Vedder is my wife
what's your secret for keeping things fresh?
Bringing in Andrew Watt
AL
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Tue February 13, 2024 8:31 pm
by oneway23
Leatherhead wrote:If somebody says "the production sounds like this" could somebody else say "no you're wrong, it sounds like this"? How subjective is the perception of what a particular sound sounds like?
More an accumulation of thousands of micro and macro choices which determine why you're hearing things the way you are...Not "wrong", merely options taken and not taken, for any number of creative or practical reasons.
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Tue February 13, 2024 8:33 pm
by Leatherhead
Is it truly a 5 star song? No, it's no Insignificance or DTE, but it's something I've wanted from Pearl Jam for a long long time. So for now, 5 fuckin' stars.
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Tue February 13, 2024 8:36 pm
by Tj
coptheriotact wrote:Maybe it’s a 4 in the context of PRAMG PJ world. Outside that it’s a 3
I like it better than nothing on S/T. I live better than Got Some, Super Sonic and the Fixer. Better than LTRP andSleeping by Myself. Better than QuickEscape Buckle Up ,Never Destination.
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Tue February 13, 2024 8:38 pm
by stip
I'm not ready for comparisons. Too new. But I have listened to this like 30 times in less than 24 hours and I'm not bored
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Tue February 13, 2024 8:39 pm
by RockPusher
My criteria between 4 and 5:
5 = PJ at their absolute best
4.5 = Very good and I love it
4 = Despite issues I enjoy it
I think this song ends up as a 4.5 for me, but right now it's definitely hitting me as a 5
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Tue February 13, 2024 8:41 pm
by tragabigzanda
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Tue February 13, 2024 8:45 pm
by stip
epilogue wrote:stip wrote:stip wrote:Kevin Davis wrote:stip wrote:Jorge wrote:Eddie Vedder is my wife
what's your secret for keeping things fresh?
Bringing in Andrew Watt
over 100,000 posts i'm sure across multiple iterations of this board and that may be the first time I used that emoji
Big day for you
Remember where you were...
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Tue February 13, 2024 8:46 pm
by Noaheb
really like this song and great write up Stip!
I also get what cant deny me wanted to be vibes from it too.
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Tue February 13, 2024 8:47 pm
by stip
tragabigzanda wrote:Leatherhead wrote:If somebody says "the production sounds like this" could somebody else say "no you're wrong, it sounds like this"? How subjective is the perception of what a particular sound sounds like?
Ample room for debate around how to talk about sounds, but decidedly less when trying to identify explicit production choices. For example, what I call "glassy" someone else might call "bright" or "harsh," but hopefully we can drill down to "an excess of 7k" or some such.
I generally think of mixes within the following contexts:
1. Width (left to right spread and instrument separation)
2. Height (high/mid/low frequencies -- It's an interesting phenomenon that we tend to perceive high frequencies as being physically higher in a space, and low ones as being physically lower.)
3. Depth (when things sound up front vs pushed back. Can be a function of volume, frequencies, and decay, or any combination of the three.)
4. Frequency range (Brightness vs. darkness vs. mid-range presence)
5. Dynamics (e.g. compression, loud vs soft)
6. Clarity vs. distortion (analog vs. digital distortion)
7. Movement (are they working the faders like a composer, or are they slapping a compressor on the stereo output and just letting it ride?)
Is compression the principle way volume is produced?
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Tue February 13, 2024 8:50 pm
by Strat
tragabigzanda wrote:Leatherhead wrote:If somebody says "the production sounds like this" could somebody else say "no you're wrong, it sounds like this"? How subjective is the perception of what a particular sound sounds like?
Ample room for debate around how to talk about sounds, but decidedly less when trying to identify explicit production choices. For example, what I call "glassy" someone else might call "bright" or "harsh," but hopefully we can drill down to "an excess of 7k" or some such.
I generally think of mixes within the following contexts:
1. Width (left to right spread and instrument separation)
2. Height (high/mid/low frequencies -- It's an interesting phenomenon that we tend to perceive high frequencies as being physically higher in a space, and low ones as being physically lower.)
3. Depth (when things sound up front vs pushed back. Can be a function of volume, frequencies, and decay, or any combination of the three.)
4. Frequency range (Brightness vs. darkness vs. mid-range presence)
5. Dynamics (e.g. compression, loud vs soft)
6. Clarity vs. distortion (analog vs. digital distortion)
7. Movement (are they working the faders like a composer, or are they slapping a compressor on the stereo output and just letting it ride?)
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Tue February 13, 2024 8:52 pm
by Coach
If a tree falls in a forest...are you upset about the sound it makes?
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Tue February 13, 2024 8:52 pm
by guitar_davey
oneway23 wrote:Jaeti wrote:"De/Re-nounce the demigods, king diamond to discard" – This lyric and its delivery are currently my favorite moments in the song.
The King Diamond reference was a pleasant surprise
Are we sure this isn't "come down to destroy?"