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Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed December 09, 2015 6:08 pm
by dimejinky99
4/5 wrote:dimejinky99 wrote:Over 250,000 people have signed a petition to ban Trump from entering the UK. He has extensive business interests both there and here in Ireland.
It has to go to the UK parliament for discussion after 100,000
Both countries have laws against hate speech and incitement to hatred. He'd be arrested if he said any of this stuff here. I'm embarrassed that he was given red carpet treatment when he was last here.
He wants to build a golf course resort.
Let's see how that goes.
Do you support banning hate speech?
I'm not sure. Someone running for president though? Them doing that at least let's you know it's a bad idea to vote for them.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed December 09, 2015 6:10 pm
by BurtReynolds
dimejinky99 wrote:4/5 wrote:dimejinky99 wrote:Over 250,000 people have signed a petition to ban Trump from entering the UK. He has extensive business interests both there and here in Ireland.
It has to go to the UK parliament for discussion after 100,000
Both countries have laws against hate speech and incitement to hatred. He'd be arrested if he said any of this stuff here. I'm embarrassed that he was given red carpet treatment when he was last here.
He wants to build a golf course resort.
Let's see how that goes.
Do you support banning hate speech?
I'm not sure. Someone running for president though? Them doing that at least let's you know it's a bad idea to vote for them.
Thats the great thing about free speech. It lets idiots expose themselves.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed December 09, 2015 6:13 pm
by Norah
4/5 wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:BurtReynolds wrote:Stickman wrote:
Hitler never had his own tv show. Your argument is invalid.
yeah but they both wrote a book
Who do you think wrote more pages of their own book?
Hitler, easily.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed December 09, 2015 6:13 pm
by Strat
I truly believe the stuff that has come out of Donalds mouth over the past however many months, has made things more dangerous. I truly believe his hate filled words have made this country more insane.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed December 09, 2015 6:14 pm
by Norah
Strat wrote:I truly believe the stuff that has come out of Donalds mouth over the past however many months, has made things more dangerous. I truly believe his hate filled words have made this country more insane.
Guys, in a year from now we're all going to be laughing at ourselves for having taken him seriously.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed December 09, 2015 6:15 pm
by dimejinky99
We don't all have an Arsenal at our disposal though. Going down to it, friend of mine pointed out yesterday that the ones applauding and cheering at Trumps rallies have a lot to ask themselves even if he doesn't get nominated.
He won't get nominated but if he runs as independent it will get uglier.
Cruz is a bigger worry imo. Same message but stealthily made digestible. He's a real concern.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed December 09, 2015 6:15 pm
by stip
except the millions of people he has brought together and helped legitimate will still be here.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed December 09, 2015 6:15 pm
by BurtReynolds
Strat wrote:I truly believe the stuff that has come out of Donalds mouth over the past however many months, has made things more dangerous. I truly believe his hate filled words have made this country more insane.
chillax bro.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed December 09, 2015 6:16 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Cruz strikes me as an even bigger shitbag than Trump, honestly.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed December 09, 2015 6:17 pm
by 4/5
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Cruz strikes me as an even bigger shitbag than Trump, honestly.
Because he really believes the stuff he's saying?
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed December 09, 2015 6:18 pm
by LoathedVermin72
4/5 wrote:LoathedVermin72 wrote:Cruz strikes me as an even bigger shitbag than Trump, honestly.
Because he really believes the stuff he's saying?
Yeah, and also because Trump gets points for not hating Kanye.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed December 09, 2015 6:18 pm
by Norah
stip wrote:except the millions of people he has brought together and helped legitimate will still be here.
Nate silver has his support among the electorate as a whole, nation wide, at around 6-8%. That's the same amount of people that believe the moon landing was staged. There will always be that amount of batshit crazy people around. This isn't new.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed December 09, 2015 6:19 pm
by BurtReynolds
LoathedVermin72 wrote:4/5 wrote:LoathedVermin72 wrote:Cruz strikes me as an even bigger shitbag than Trump, honestly.
Because he really believes the stuff he's saying?
Yeah, and also because Trump gets points for not hating Kanye.
worse than Hitler.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed December 09, 2015 6:20 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
It seems as though Hilary is just going to cruise to the Dem nomination, even with all of the controversy surrounding her, and the Republicans once again don't have their sh*t togther (which is sooooo irritating to me), so I could easily see a Trump v. Clinton ballot, which could be, quite possibly, the worst thing in the history of this country.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed December 09, 2015 6:20 pm
by Strat
cutuphalfdead wrote:stip wrote:except the millions of people he has brought together and helped legitimate will still be here.
Nate silver has his support among the electorate as a whole, nation wide, at around 6-8%. That's the same amount of people that believe the moon landing was staged. There will always be that amount of batshit crazy people around. This isn't new.
Sure, but has it ever really been as up front and center as it is now with Trump?
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed December 09, 2015 6:21 pm
by 4/5
LoathedVermin72 wrote:4/5 wrote:LoathedVermin72 wrote:Cruz strikes me as an even bigger shitbag than Trump, honestly.
Because he really believes the stuff he's saying?
Yeah, and also because Trump gets points for not hating Kanye.
One of my favorite Ted Cruz quotes was about he was a fan of rock music until 9/11 but he didn't like how rock music responded to 9/11 so he realized that country music was where he belonged.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed December 09, 2015 6:21 pm
by Norah
Strat wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:stip wrote:except the millions of people he has brought together and helped legitimate will still be here.
Nate silver has his support among the electorate as a whole, nation wide, at around 6-8%. That's the same amount of people that believe the moon landing was staged. There will always be that amount of batshit crazy people around. This isn't new.
Sure, but has it ever really been as up front and center as it is now with Trump?
Only because we're in the midst of primary election season, and in the primaries the narrative drifts towards the fringes of the political spectrum. This won't be up front anymore when the election is over.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed December 09, 2015 6:22 pm
by 4/5
E.H. Ruddock wrote:It seems as though Hilary is just going to cruise to the Dem nomination, even with all of the controversy surrounding her, and the Republicans once again don't have their sh*t togther (which is sooooo irritating to me), so I could easily see a Trump v. Clinton ballot, which could be, quite possibly, the worst thing in the history of this country.
I mean Clinton would mop the floor with him and then it'd be politics as usual, so it probably wouldn't be the worst thing ever.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed December 09, 2015 6:22 pm
by BurtReynolds
Clinton will be president, it is known, which will insure a republican president in 2020. You heard it here first. I will not concern myself with this silliness any further.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed December 09, 2015 6:24 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
BurtReynolds wrote:Clinton will be president, it is known, which will insure a republican president in 2020. You heard it here first. I will not concern myself with this silliness any further.
The Republicans haven't had their stuff together for the past two, now three, elections. What makes you think they will in 2020?