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Re: Election 2016

Posted: Sun October 16, 2016 5:33 pm
by McParadigm
theplatypus wrote:Do you guys think Trump really believes the election is rigged? Or is this just a way to avoid direct responsibility for his disaster of a campaign?
Whenever someone says good things about him he loves them. Whenever they say something bad he hates them. At this volume, it's possible that he is going there. It's more likely that he is using it to pull in his supporters, telling them what they already believe. Whether he's doing that because he thinks it will help win the election, or because it will help sell his news channel as the only one those people can trust is unknown.

What is definitely, unquestionably true is that he has no problem taking the chance that these claims might lead to violence or worse...as long as they serve Donald Trump.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Sun October 16, 2016 5:34 pm
by @SkitchP
theplatypus wrote:Do you guys think Trump really believes the election is rigged? Or is this just a way to avoid direct responsibility for his disaster of a campaign?

I think it is a combination of the two. His ego wont allow him to believe he's actually losing, but I think being so vocal about it is to

A.) avoid direct responsibility
B.) fire up the idiots that support him.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Sun October 16, 2016 5:49 pm
by McParadigm
I love that he let Giuliani and the like spend all morning saying "he meant the media, not the actual election," before tweeting that he actually meant the election.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Sun October 16, 2016 9:04 pm
by wease
theplatypus wrote:Do you guys think Trump really believes the election is rigged? Or is this just a way to avoid direct responsibility for his disaster of a campaign?
It's just him directing blame on something other than himself. He's never to blame for ANYTHING.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Sun October 16, 2016 9:39 pm
by B
wease wrote:
theplatypus wrote:Do you guys think Trump really believes the election is rigged? Or is this just a way to avoid direct responsibility for his disaster of a campaign?
It's just him directing blame on something other than himself. He's never to blame for ANYTHING.
I'm sure he goes to these rallies, and there are thousands of people there to see him. They all tell him how important he is and how they're going to vote for him. And he thinks "well, I've been all over the country and talked to thousands of people and not one person has told me they're going to vote for Hillary. How could she possibly beat me in this election?"

Some people are just soaking in bias, and they don't know it's there.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Sun October 16, 2016 9:42 pm
by BurtReynolds
Even if no one showed up at his rallies, he'd still probably believe his own nonsense.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Sun October 16, 2016 10:33 pm
by B
I just too a political poll. There were a lot of political questions, but it whittled down to these super biased questions about Deborah Ross, our candidate for Senate. Stuff like "Deborah once took a stand against sex offender registries that would allow parents to know what sex offenders may be living in their neighborhood," or "Deborah Ross once defended a man who broke into a house and attempted to rape a woman while her child watched, even going so far as to claim the defendant deserved a lighter sentence because he failed to actually rape the woman."

I said, "What is this? A push poll?"

The woman laughed and said yeah.

:shake:

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Sun October 16, 2016 10:51 pm
by McParadigm
Animals representing Hillary Clinton and Dems in North Carolina just firebombed our office in Orange County because we are winning @NCGOP
Jesus fucking Christ, guy

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Sun October 16, 2016 10:58 pm
by Green Habit
B wrote:I just too a political poll. There were a lot of political questions, but it whittled down to these super biased questions about Deborah Ross, our candidate for Senate. Stuff like "Deborah once took a stand against sex offender registries that would allow parents to know what sex offenders may be living in their neighborhood," or "Deborah Ross once defended a man who broke into a house and attempted to rape a woman while her child watched, even going so far as to claim the defendant deserved a lighter sentence because he failed to actually rape the woman."

I said, "What is this? A push poll?"

The woman laughed and said yeah.

:shake:
Birch Barlow: Mayor Quimby, you're well-known, sir, for your lenient stance on crime. But suppose for a second that your house was ransacked by thugs, your family tied up in the basement with socks in their mouths, you try to open the door but there's too much blood on the knob.
Quimby: What is your question?
Birch Barlow: My question is about the budget, sir.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Sun October 16, 2016 11:06 pm
by McParadigm
A third of the electorate wants to put someone in the White House who will make threatening accusations on Twitter about events before waiting for any information. From anybody. About anything.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Sun October 16, 2016 11:07 pm
by Bi_3
McParadigm wrote:
Gingrich: 20 Media Executives Are Launching A "Coup D'Etat" Against Millions Of Trump Voters
What is this idiot's problem though?


Well, they are lying to us to protect Killary.



Re: Election 2016

Posted: Sun October 16, 2016 11:10 pm
by McParadigm
Bi_3 wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
Gingrich: 20 Media Executives Are Launching A "Coup D'Etat" Against Millions Of Trump Voters
What is this idiot's problem though?


Well, they are lying to us to protect Killary.


Democrats should be highlighting these emails. "Hillary wants industry experts to have input on industry regulations" sounds a lot more like "she's not a dangerous idiot" than "she's corrupt!" And "hey, look she was discussing possible ways to address the heroin epidemic" would be a great pivot point.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Sun October 16, 2016 11:15 pm
by McParadigm
Donald Trump has had the effect of making the politics of the prequels feel really legit. Sad!

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Sun October 16, 2016 11:22 pm
by Simple Torture
McParadigm wrote:Donald Trump has had the effect of making the politics of the prequels feel really legit. Sad!
"We have a weak, weak leader in Chancellor Valorum, it's very sad. People are saying that he's responsible for--have you heard this--there's very smart people who say he's the founder of the Separatist movement. He is literally the founder. And Bail Organa represents four more seasons of his leading-from-behind style, making the worst deals with the Hutts and refusing to stand up to the Ithorians. I will make the best deals, some of my best friends are Hutts--look at my Hutt over there! We used to make things in this galaxy: power convertors, astromech droids, T-16 skyhoppers. We are going to build a Dyson Sphere and we're going to make the Bothans pay for it!"

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Sun October 16, 2016 11:32 pm
by Simple Torture
Simple Torture wrote:
McParadigm wrote:Donald Trump has had the effect of making the politics of the prequels feel really legit. Sad!
"We have a weak, weak leader in Chancellor Valorum, it's very sad. People are saying that he's responsible for--have you heard this--there's very smart people who say he's the founder of the Separatist movement. He is literally the founder. And Bail Organa represents four more seasons of his leading-from-behind style, making the worst deals with the Hutts and refusing to stand up to the Ithorians. I will make the best deals, some of my best friends are Hutts--look at my Hutt over there! We used to make things in this galaxy: power convertors, astromech droids, T-16 skyhoppers. We are going to build a Dyson Sphere and we're going to make the Bothans pay for it!"
"The lower levels of Coruscant are a war zone right now, it's very sad. Very sad. You walk down the street, you just went to the corner store to buy some death sticks, and then--BAM--you're dead. Some people, they say it's the security force's fault, but bounty hunters are killing other bounty hunters, they're shooting each other in the necks with poison darts and--this isn't politically correct, I'm going to get in trouble for this--and you find out they're shape shifters. You're just trying to run your 1950s-style diner and you've got all four of your arms full trying to deal with these people--these bounty hunter thugs--and there are some good ones! Your 4-LOMs and your Zuckusses, who can track down bounties without freezing good people in carbonite or going on chases through asteroid fields."

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Sun October 16, 2016 11:49 pm
by wease
Excellent job, RMers!!

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Sun October 16, 2016 11:59 pm
by Bi_3
McParadigm wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
Gingrich: 20 Media Executives Are Launching A "Coup D'Etat" Against Millions Of Trump Voters
What is this idiot's problem though?


Well, they are lying to us to protect Killary.


Democrats should be highlighting these emails. "Hillary wants industry experts to have input on industry regulations" sounds a lot more like "she's not a dangerous idiot" than "she's corrupt!" And "hey, look she was discussing possible ways to address the heroin epidemic" would be a great pivot point.

I applaud your redirection there, but the point was we have Trump saying "the media is lying to you to protect hillary" and CNN goes does exactly that. Kinda depressing they would feed the beast like that.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Mon October 17, 2016 1:22 am
by McParadigm
Bi_3 wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
Gingrich: 20 Media Executives Are Launching A "Coup D'Etat" Against Millions Of Trump Voters
What is this idiot's problem though?


Well, they are lying to us to protect Killary.


Democrats should be highlighting these emails. "Hillary wants industry experts to have input on industry regulations" sounds a lot more like "she's not a dangerous idiot" than "she's corrupt!" And "hey, look she was discussing possible ways to address the heroin epidemic" would be a great pivot point.

I applaud your redirection there, but the point was we have Trump saying "the media is lying to you to protect hillary" and CNN goes does exactly that. Kinda depressing they would feed the beast like that.
My point is that I agree. There hasn't been anything to the emails yet that is worth half a groan, and a lot of it could arguably help her if she wouldn't always knee jerk towards secrecy. There's no need for the media to protect her here.

But I also think that the lack of real impactful substance is exactly why the media doesn't need to be talking about them much at all. When one candidate is caught admitting that politicians often can't afford to be honest, and the other is openly promoting conspiracy theory nonsense to an angry, raving fanbase...which includes distrust of the election process itself...then I consider it neither balanced nor responsible for the media to spend any time pretending the former means shit.

I also think this must have been an insane place to be:

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Re: Election 2016

Posted: Mon October 17, 2016 1:24 am
by BurtReynolds
nice photoshop job.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Mon October 17, 2016 1:26 am
by McParadigm
6. The highlight of the night was a performance involving Indian dancers being attacked by terrorists with lightsaber-y guns, and being saved by the US Army
Well he sure knows how to throw a party