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Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Tue August 29, 2017 7:35 pm
by Strat
geezes, trag.
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Tue August 29, 2017 7:50 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Tue August 29, 2017 8:10 pm
by Dscans
Regarding the Theon fight scene...
It made me think of a conversation back in season 2 or 3 between Cersei and (I think) Tyrion. She said the thing that makes Varys so dangerous is that he doesn't have a cock. I think it's also part of what makes the Unsullied so badass; they don't have that vulnerability, that weakness.
I might be reading too much into Theon getting kneed in the groin, but it might be the moment when he embraces his cocklessness and sees it as a strength rather than a hindrance. It was more symbolic than anything else.
Also, my two cents to Malice: I would super not read the books until the series is over. It will only set you up for disappointment. If you hold off on the books you will still have something to look forward to after the show is over.
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Tue August 29, 2017 8:24 pm
by Anders
I love that the show doesn't care what gender you are. Arya can be a badass killer, just like the Hound. Joffrey can be a terrible person, just like Cersei. Jon and Brienne can both the true and honorable. Jamie and Dany are ruthless. However, we do need a wide range of stories, even some that go for a sort of redemption. It would be boring if all the characters that are perceived as evil, just die. So I like that Theon has an arc of doing something he believes in, and something that is selfless and even good to a certain degree.
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Tue August 29, 2017 8:32 pm
by Mecca
tragabigzanda wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:
I'm not sure what you like about Theon's story. That scene fell flat because it was entirely unearned. Redeeming Theon is a Herculean task that I don't athink is possible, ultimately. Therefore, no matter what they do, it will feel unearned and fall flat. They should just kill him.
D&D are also now in danger of undermining one of the key themes of the story, one of the things that has made the story so good all along, by having Theon swoop in a rescue poor, defenceless, damsel Yara. I hope that doesn't happen the way they are setting it up. That's gonna be gross if it does. And also completely unearned.
god you're sexy
I'm so confused. I made a less-erudite complaint about Theon's story yesterday, and Joey attacked me for not liking stuff. Is Joey bi-polar?
Joey only cares that they not diminish the idea that the women in the story don't need men to save them. While I don't care about Theon's story, I don't think this really goes back on subverting that trope because it's not about a guy saving a girl and they fall madly in love; it's a brother, who grew up always doubting that he was actually a part of the Greyjoy family realizing that she's the only family that matters to him. It's more about his growth of accepting that he's a greyjoy who was raised as a stark and wanting to save his sister. He had a debt to repay her for being the only person who tried to save him
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Tue August 29, 2017 9:26 pm
by epilogue
tragabigzanda wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:
I'm not sure what you like about Theon's story. That scene fell flat because it was entirely unearned. Redeeming Theon is a Herculean task that I don't athink is possible, ultimately. Therefore, no matter what they do, it will feel unearned and fall flat. They should just kill him.
D&D are also now in danger of undermining one of the key themes of the story, one of the things that has made the story so good all along, by having Theon swoop in a rescue poor, defenceless, damsel Yara. I hope that doesn't happen the way they are setting it up. That's gonna be gross if it does. And also completely unearned.
god you're sexy
I'm so confused. I made a less-erudite complaint about Theon's story yesterday, and Joey attacked me for not liking stuff. Is Joey bi-polar?
wat
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Tue August 29, 2017 9:45 pm
by Strat
durdencommatyler wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:
I'm not sure what you like about Theon's story. That scene fell flat because it was entirely unearned. Redeeming Theon is a Herculean task that I don't athink is possible, ultimately. Therefore, no matter what they do, it will feel unearned and fall flat. They should just kill him.
D&D are also now in danger of undermining one of the key themes of the story, one of the things that has made the story so good all along, by having Theon swoop in a rescue poor, defenceless, damsel Yara. I hope that doesn't happen the way they are setting it up. That's gonna be gross if it does. And also completely unearned.
god you're sexy
I'm so confused. I made a less-erudite complaint about Theon's story yesterday, and Joey attacked me for not liking stuff. Is Joey bi-polar?
wat
HE SAID
I'M SO CONFUSED. I MADE A LESS-ERUDITE COMPLAINT ABOUT THEON'S STORY YESTERDAY, AND JOEY ATTACKED ME FOR NOT LIKING STUFF. IS JOEY BI-POLAR?
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Tue August 29, 2017 10:14 pm
by Simple Torture
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Tue August 29, 2017 10:20 pm
by epilogue
Strat wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:
I'm not sure what you like about Theon's story. That scene fell flat because it was entirely unearned. Redeeming Theon is a Herculean task that I don't athink is possible, ultimately. Therefore, no matter what they do, it will feel unearned and fall flat. They should just kill him.
D&D are also now in danger of undermining one of the key themes of the story, one of the things that has made the story so good all along, by having Theon swoop in a rescue poor, defenceless, damsel Yara. I hope that doesn't happen the way they are setting it up. That's gonna be gross if it does. And also completely unearned.
god you're sexy
I'm so confused. I made a less-erudite complaint about Theon's story yesterday, and Joey attacked me for not liking stuff. Is Joey bi-polar?
wat
HE SAID
I'M SO CONFUSED. I MADE A LESS-ERUDITE COMPLAINT ABOUT THEON'S STORY YESTERDAY, AND JOEY ATTACKED ME FOR NOT LIKING STUFF. IS JOEY BI-POLAR?
God, I love you so hard.
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Wed August 30, 2017 12:36 am
by BurtReynolds
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Wed August 30, 2017 12:42 am
by epilogue
wat
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Wed August 30, 2017 1:24 am
by malice
Dscans wrote:Regarding the Theon fight scene...
It made me think of a conversation back in season 2 or 3 between Cersei and (I think) Tyrion. She said the thing that makes Varys so dangerous is that he doesn't have a cock. I think it's also part of what makes the Unsullied so badass; they don't have that vulnerability, that weakness.
I might be reading too much into Theon getting kneed in the groin, but it might be the moment when he embraces his cocklessness and sees it as a strength rather than a hindrance. It was more symbolic than anything else.
Also, my two cents to Malice: I would super not read the books until the series is over. It will only set you up for disappointment. If you hold off on the books you will still have something to look forward to after the show is over.
I honestly had difficulty slogging through the first few hundred pages when i bought them, and i used to read quite a lot. i don't know how far I'd make it through if all the writing feels that loaded down with bleh, i just don't enjoy Martin's writing much so I'll have to update you if i make a decision
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Wed August 30, 2017 4:32 pm
by Simple Torture
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Wed August 30, 2017 7:13 pm
by epilogue
wat
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Wed August 30, 2017 7:28 pm
by Monkey_Driven
durdencommatyler wrote:wat
They fucked on a boat.
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Wed August 30, 2017 7:40 pm
by epilogue
They sure did!
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Wed August 30, 2017 7:49 pm
by malice
durdencommatyler wrote:They sure did!
so you know how most people overuse exclamation points in posts? like there's no way anyone could possibly be that happy/excited in real life? Not you dct, never you. I'm fairly certain you actually sound exactly like your posts
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Wed August 30, 2017 7:51 pm
by epilogue
malice wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:They sure did!
so you know how most people overuse exclamation points in posts? like there's no way anyone could possibly be that happy/excited in real life? Not you dct, never you. I'm fairly certain you actually sound exactly like your posts
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Wed August 30, 2017 7:53 pm
by Monkey_Driven
durdencommatyler wrote:malice wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:They sure did!
so you know how most people overuse exclamation points in posts? like there's no way anyone could possibly be that happy/excited in real life? Not you dct, never you. I'm fairly certain you actually sound exactly like your posts
It's probably your only endearing quality.
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Wed August 30, 2017 8:00 pm
by epilogue
Monkey_Driven wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:malice wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:They sure did!
so you know how most people overuse exclamation points in posts? like there's no way anyone could possibly be that happy/excited in real life? Not you dct, never you. I'm fairly certain you actually sound exactly like your posts
It's probably your only endearing quality.
I'll take it!
