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Re: The 47th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon March 31, 2025 4:55 pm
by Higgs
The US are the world's #1 supplier of almonds. China are the world's #1 consumer of almonds. China imposed 35% tarriffs on US almonds in response to Trump's pissing contest.

Turns out Australia are the world's 2nd biggest supplier of almonds and expanded almond production a few years ago. Apparently we have a huge number of almond trees reaching maturity just this very year.

So on behalf of all Aussie almond farmers, thanks Trump. Winning!

Re: The 47th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon March 31, 2025 5:06 pm
by Bi_3
Higgs wrote:The US are the world's #1 supplier of almonds. China are the world's #1 consumer of almonds. China imposed 35% tarriffs on US almonds in response to Trump's pissing contest.

Turns out Australia are the world's 2nd biggest supplier of almonds and expanded almond production a few years ago. Apparently we have a huge number of almond trees reaching maturity just this very year.

So on behalf of all Aussie almond farmers, thanks Trump. Winning!

Dramatically reducing almond production in the US is a good thing as it takes ~1 gallon (3.8L) of ground water to produce a single almond. Huge waste of limited environmental resources in California.


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Re: The 47th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon March 31, 2025 5:42 pm
by Higgs
And with Trump wasting 8 billion gallons of water in California as a PR stunt too, probs all for the best. A true win-win for us all.

Re: The 47th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon March 31, 2025 5:46 pm
by McParadigm
Bi_3 wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:what will happen next
Most of the board will hope the world their families live in collapses so they can win internet points.
I am not in any way afraid to be wrong in public. People who think the point of an argument is to win have failed to realize that the point is always to learn.

But you can’t learn from an argument while holding back your actual thoughts. You can’t learn from an argument without information sharing. And as I have said, I would like nothing more than to be wrong on this particular topic. I can’t tell you how relieving it would be, to look back two years from now and think “wow what an idiot.“ That’s a utopian future, son.

So especially if you think that I am wrong, I would welcome your response to the question as posed. I would read and consider your thoughts.
Bi_3 wrote:Is there actual evidence of a reduction in the quality of foreign students applying to US colleges and universities as a result of Trump's actions in the last 60 days?
I understand that the point of this is that we can’t know yet whether or not a thing is going to happen. And forget 60 days…the most impactful stories on this front are maybe 2 weeks old. But first of all, this was a forward facing question. It was about what you think might be true about the future.

And this is a situation that is still ramping up, not down. The number of immigration and detention stories that come out in the next six months will far, far outnumber the ones we have already seen. How do you expect people in other countries to respond, if not in their own self-interest?

We could get into all the other reasons they might not come here: visa delays, for one. Or, the loss of federal grant funding. A huge number of PhD students, international and otherwise, depend on federally funded jobs as teaching assistants, research and project assistants, etc. to make their journey possible.

But it all comes down to: cause has effect. I don’t know why someone would look at all of this and think it won’t affect other people’s behaviors. Japan and South Korea are forming new economic partnerships with China focused on containing their economic exposure to us. This is how the world is responding to what they’ve seen so far, and they’re going to see quite a lot more.

Re: The 47th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon March 31, 2025 5:52 pm
by Sloppy Dupree
Why aren’t Trump supporters a fire about the imported car tariffs? That seems a lot worse than expensive eggs. It seems catastrophic to working families in general.

Re: The 47th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon March 31, 2025 6:07 pm
by wease
Sloppy Dupree wrote:Why aren’t Trump supporters a fire about the imported car tariffs? That seems a lot worse than expensive eggs. It seems catastrophic to working families in general.
A) they will blindly swallow the pill no matter the evidence against it. If Trump says it, it’s true
B) see A

Re: The 47th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon March 31, 2025 6:10 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE

Re: The 47th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon March 31, 2025 6:12 pm
by Sloppy Dupree
wease wrote:
Sloppy Dupree wrote:Why aren’t Trump supporters a fire about the imported car tariffs? That seems a lot worse than expensive eggs. It seems catastrophic to working families in general.
A) they will blindly swallow the pill no matter the evidence against it. If Trump says it, it’s true
B) see A
Checks out. I mean, I’m sure there’s a way to tie this to Hillary Clinton and the reptilian cabal of pedophiles. If they can kidnap thousands of children, they can also affect egg and car prices.

Re: The 47th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon March 31, 2025 7:45 pm
by Bi_3
McParadigm wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:what will happen next
Most of the board will hope the world their families live in collapses so they can win internet points.
I am not in any way afraid to be wrong in public. People who think the point of an argument is to win have failed to realize that the point is always to learn.

But you can’t learn from an argument while holding back your actual thoughts. You can’t learn from an argument without information sharing. And as I have said, I would like nothing more than to be wrong on this particular topic. I can’t tell you how relieving it would be, to look back two years from now and think “wow what an idiot.“ That’s a utopian future, son.

So especially if you think that I am wrong, I would welcome your response to the question as posed. I would read and consider your thoughts.
Bi_3 wrote:Is there actual evidence of a reduction in the quality of foreign students applying to US colleges and universities as a result of Trump's actions in the last 60 days?
I understand that the point of this is that we can’t know yet whether or not a thing is going to happen. And forget 60 days…the most impactful stories on this front are maybe 2 weeks old. But first of all, this was a forward facing question. It was about what you think might be true about the future.

And this is a situation that is still ramping up, not down. The number of immigration and detention stories that come out in the next six months will far, far outnumber the ones we have already seen. How do you expect people in other countries to respond, if not in their own self-interest?

We could get into all the other reasons they might not come here: visa delays, for one. Or, the loss of federal grant funding. A huge number of PhD students, international and otherwise, depend on federally funded jobs as teaching assistants, research and project assistants, etc. to make their journey possible.

But it all comes down to: cause has effect. I don’t know why someone would look at all of this and think it won’t affect other people’s behaviors. Japan and South Korea are forming new economic partnerships with China focused on containing their economic exposure to us. This is how the world is responding to what they’ve seen so far, and they’re going to see quite a lot more.
I've got nothing to respond with. I suspect this is how it will end up unless things radically shift in the next couple months. The one consolation is that there appears no real significant 'success' in Trump's moves so far beyond killing off federal level DEI offices and basic border enforcement. Everything else appears to be smoke and mirrors. I've seen no one beyond MAGA really argue otherwise and I'm guessing that is why the rate of EOs has slowed down.

Re: The 47th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon March 31, 2025 9:43 pm
by BurtReynolds
when gold-digging goes wrong

Re: The 47th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon March 31, 2025 9:46 pm
by doug rr
what apartment complex does she live in?

Re: The 47th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon March 31, 2025 10:56 pm
by wease
Who could’ve ever imagined Elon Musk would be a deadbeat dad.

Re: Re: The 47th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue April 01, 2025 12:07 am
by Ello Sailor
BurtReynolds wrote:Image

We've lapped the world several times over. I think we can handle a little brain drain. And who knows, it might make the rest of the world more capable of taking care of itself if they keep a little more "talent".
In school shootings and being big, dumb idiots online, sure.

Re: The 47th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue April 01, 2025 12:08 am
by Ello Sailor
Absolute bellend.

Re: The 47th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue April 01, 2025 12:28 am
by BurtReynolds
Ello Sailor wrote:Absolute bellend.
We're talking about patents, innovation, world power and other things not including rastlin crocodiles.

Re: The 47th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue April 01, 2025 12:50 am
by spike
just so we're clear, the MAGA stance is now no longer caring about competing with china?

Re: Re: The 47th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue April 01, 2025 12:52 am
by BurtReynolds
You'd have to ask them. I've already said a few times before I don't find China a big threat.

Re: The 47th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue April 01, 2025 12:55 am
by Ello Sailor
The cope is real. What more could we expect from the poster child for cognitive dissonance. The perfect imbecile. The blueprint.

Re: Re: The 47th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue April 01, 2025 12:59 am
by spike
BurtReynolds wrote:You'd have to ask them. I've already said a few times before I don't find China a big threat.
what about keeping ze germans in check? poaching their talent for decades, in part to keep them docile, seems like a theory you'd subscribe to.

Re: The 47th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue April 01, 2025 1:00 am
by BurtReynolds
Ello Sailor wrote:The cope is real. What more could we expect from the poster child for cognitive dissonance. The perfect imbecile. The blueprint.
Stick to drinking on the beach until you pass out, brah. International affairs are out of you wheelhouse.