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Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour
Posted: Mon July 15, 2013 10:42 pm
by Iowaska_Experience
Birds in Hell wrote:commo wrote:Mecca wrote:commo wrote:Mecca wrote:commo wrote:Mecca wrote:How did I fucking lose tickets in my own hometown show? What the fuck?! This is the first time I've ever been shut out for tickets.
what city
Buffalo
whats your number
330xxx
might be why, way too many people with lower numbers in NY.
i'm in OK with a 193 and barely get tix, shall see when they draw leg 2, i still have no idea
Your number has absolutely no determination over whether or not you get selected for tickets.
Wonder why that is exactly...seems like that would be a good compromise to have your lottery chances weighted by 10C seniority (more ping pong balls to draw from for lower-# members), especially with the GA watering down seniority already.
Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour
Posted: Mon July 15, 2013 10:44 pm
by Birds in Hell
I used to be in "lottery makes no difference" camp, but it really is a significant change to the way 10C tickets are distributed.
It's a lot harder to score tickets to multiple shows now, you only have a really a good chance at one show (and even that's not certain.)
Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour
Posted: Mon July 15, 2013 10:44 pm
by broken iris
Iowaska_Experience wrote:Birds in Hell wrote:commo wrote:Mecca wrote:commo wrote:Mecca wrote:commo wrote:Mecca wrote:How did I fucking lose tickets in my own hometown show? What the fuck?! This is the first time I've ever been shut out for tickets.
what city
Buffalo
whats your number
330xxx
might be why, way too many people with lower numbers in NY.
i'm in OK with a 193 and barely get tix, shall see when they draw leg 2, i still have no idea
Your number has absolutely no determination over whether or not you get selected for tickets.
Wonder why that is exactly...seems like that would be a good compromise to have your lottery chances weighted by 10C seniority (more ping pong balls to draw from for lower-# members), especially with the GA watering down seniority already.
Alternatively, they could bring back the system that worked for 8 years (minus three bad days).

Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour
Posted: Mon July 15, 2013 10:47 pm
by dprival78
broken iris wrote:Iowaska_Experience wrote:Birds in Hell wrote:commo wrote:Mecca wrote:commo wrote:Mecca wrote:commo wrote:Mecca wrote:How did I fucking lose tickets in my own hometown show? What the fuck?! This is the first time I've ever been shut out for tickets.
what city
Buffalo
whats your number
330xxx
might be why, way too many people with lower numbers in NY.
i'm in OK with a 193 and barely get tix, shall see when they draw leg 2, i still have no idea
Your number has absolutely no determination over whether or not you get selected for tickets.
Wonder why that is exactly...seems like that would be a good compromise to have your lottery chances weighted by 10C seniority (more ping pong balls to draw from for lower-# members), especially with the GA watering down seniority already.
Alternatively, they could bring back the system that worked for 8 years (minus three bad days).

bingo x10
Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour
Posted: Mon July 15, 2013 10:51 pm
by Norah
given2trade wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:You guys are idiots. Whether you find out now or later doesn't change whether you have them or not. The lottery doesn't change your odds of getting tickets from the old f5 system. This has no affect on the value of Ten club membership.
I find it amazing I now agree w/ almost everything you post re: Pearl Jam these days.
Look how far we've come.
Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour
Posted: Mon July 15, 2013 10:54 pm
by darth_vedder
Whew, got my Baltimore tickets. This was the only show I could make this tour, so I was gonna be pissed if I missed out.
Even though I "won", I don't know if I like this approach. I never had any problems getting tickets to DC shows in years past. I didn't this time either, but I didn't like "entering" and waiting around to "win". Guess I shouldn't really complain, but the new way just seems weird to me. Maybe I just don't like change?
Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour
Posted: Mon July 15, 2013 10:54 pm
by Norah
Oh, and I'm in for Hartford. No word on Worcester though.
Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour
Posted: Mon July 15, 2013 10:55 pm
by broken iris
darth_vedder wrote:Whew, got my Baltimore tickets. This was the only show I could make this tour, so I was gonna be pissed if I missed out.
Even though I "won", I don't know if I like this approach. I never had any problems getting tickets to DC shows in years past. I didn't this time either, but I didn't like "entering" and waiting around to "win". Guess I shouldn't really complain, but the new way just seems weird to me. Maybe I just don't like change?
I put Baltimore as my #1. Haven't heard anything yet.
Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour
Posted: Mon July 15, 2013 10:56 pm
by Zod
broken iris wrote:
Alternatively, they could bring back the system that worked for 8 years (minus three bad days).

Which may or may not help. The other outstanding issue is that the 10c seems to get access to less and less tickets every tour.
You would actually think that people would have a higher chance at getting tickets to their hometown show because of the preference system. (IE people who rate it #1 have better odds than someone who rated it #4).
I can't imagine the stingier nature of ticket agencies helps us out any.
Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour
Posted: Mon July 15, 2013 10:57 pm
by Norah
Didn't get an email about Worcester, but checked my ticket page on pj.com and I see I lost there.
Spenno does have a point, this system does make it harder to go to multiple shows. But honestly, is that a bad thing?
Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour
Posted: Mon July 15, 2013 10:57 pm
by Mecca
cutuphalfdead wrote:Oh, and I'm in for Hartford. No word on Worcester though.
probably doing you a favor with Worcester
Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour
Posted: Mon July 15, 2013 10:58 pm
by broken iris
Zod wrote:broken iris wrote:
Alternatively, they could bring back the system that worked for 8 years (minus three bad days).

Which may or may not help. The other outstanding issue is that the 10c seems to get access to less and less tickets every tour.
You would actually think that people would have a higher chance at getting tickets to their hometown show because of the preference system. (IE people who rate it #1 have better odds than someone who rated it #4).
I can't imagine the stingier nature of ticket agencies helps us out any.
Well, I know that with the old system if you lost out on your local show, you could try again when the next closest show went on sale. With this, it's win or lose in one shot. Easy for the 10c, but tough on the fans who lose out in the lotto.
Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour
Posted: Mon July 15, 2013 11:00 pm
by broken iris
All of my entries still say "entered". Hmm.... that doesn't bode well.
Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour
Posted: Mon July 15, 2013 11:05 pm
by Norah
Mecca wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:Oh, and I'm in for Hartford. No word on Worcester though.
probably doing you a favor with Worcester
Hartford was by far my priority. Later in the tour means better show usually. And Hartford is a Friday night not a Tuesday.
Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour
Posted: Mon July 15, 2013 11:05 pm
by Norah
My sister also put in for Hartford and Worcester and she's still TBD while I have win/loss.
Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour
Posted: Mon July 15, 2013 11:19 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
Still no word for me on Charlotte. :/
Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour
Posted: Mon July 15, 2013 11:20 pm
by Birds in Hell
cutuphalfdead wrote:Spenno does have a point, this system does make it harder to go to multiple shows. But honestly, is that a bad thing?
Not necessarily. I think it was probably a conscious decision to enforcedly spread the ticket distribution around more than the old system.
I was mainly responding to Matt's point that it makes no difference - when I actually thought about how the system works in practice, I realised it really does make a large difference. Going forwards, people are going to have to get used to not relying on 10C as their primary source of tickets. It'll be a bonus if they score them, otherwise it's off to Ticketmaster.
Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour
Posted: Mon July 15, 2013 11:23 pm
by Norah
Birds in Hell wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:Spenno does have a point, this system does make it harder to go to multiple shows. But honestly, is that a bad thing?
Not necessarily. I think it was probably a conscious decision to enforcedly spread the ticket distribution around more than the old system.
I was mainly responding to Matt's point that it makes no difference - when I actually thought about how the system works in practice, I realised it really does make a large difference. Going forwards, people are going to have to get used to not relying on 10C as their primary source of tickets. It'll be a bonus if they score them, otherwise it's off to Ticketmaster.
Also, it's not like the Ten Club has always allowed access to as many shows as you want. Back in the day you chose a primary and a backup and hoped for the best.
Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour
Posted: Mon July 15, 2013 11:24 pm
by Birds in Hell
cutuphalfdead wrote:Birds in Hell wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:Spenno does have a point, this system does make it harder to go to multiple shows. But honestly, is that a bad thing?
Not necessarily. I think it was probably a conscious decision to enforcedly spread the ticket distribution around more than the old system.
I was mainly responding to Matt's point that it makes no difference - when I actually thought about how the system works in practice, I realised it really does make a large difference. Going forwards, people are going to have to get used to not relying on 10C as their primary source of tickets. It'll be a bonus if they score them, otherwise it's off to Ticketmaster.
Also, it's not like the Ten Club has always allowed access to as many shows as you want. Back in the day you chose a primary and a backup and hoped for the best.
Which is basically where we're back to now.
Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour
Posted: Mon July 15, 2013 11:25 pm
by lowlight79
Still no word on none of my choices