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K, Calgary is actually sounding pretty good. its somewhat on low volume at the office here but I look forward to giving this a proper listen. Did Ed actually not do a call and response daugther tag? Thats something right there.

Porch is pretty great. I am not too fond of the fact they play it at the same speed everytime. I wish they would bring it up and down like the good ol' days. That being said - they are locked in. Ament/Cameron and Stone. Stone is playing a handful of pretty sweet riffs that could easily be developed into classic stone riffs. Make it happen, guy.

Strat wrote:Porch is pretty great. I am not too fond of the fact they play it at the same speed everytime. I wish they would bring it up and down like the good ol' days. That being said - they are locked in. Ament/Cameron and Stone. Stone is playing a handful of pretty sweet riffs that could easily be developed into classic stone riffs. Make it happen, guy.

I heard that version of Porch on PJ radio and literally thought it was the best performance of any one song in years. I haven't heard anything else but I'm glad to hear this from a knowledgeable poster as yourself.

Know what that means?

Going to buy Calgary right noooooow!

I'll add my irrelevant opinion after I get a listen.

Here's my advice... don't buy the Phoenix show. Great setlist. Worst show I've ever heard from Pearl Jam. Ed fucks up lyrics on every other song and on the ones he doesn't fuck up, he can't hit the notes and his voices breaks like a 13 year old boy in puberty. Ugh....

No seriously, don't even bother. Its atrocious.

I haven't listened to any boots other than Baltimore. I think that one turned me off from this whole tour. If I need a live PJ fix, I'll just play LO2L, the 2000 tour (any show), and The Guest Are So Refined (Japanese 2003 compilation).

darth_vedder wrote:I haven't listened to any boots other than Baltimore. I think that one turned me off from this whole tour. If I need a live PJ fix, I'll just play LO2L, the 2000 tour (any show), and The Guest Are So Refined (Japanese 2003 compilation).

That definitely sounds like a better idea than subjecting yourself to one of the recent shows. I've heard a bunch and I won't be making an effort to hear any more.

It's not even that they're consistently bad, though they certainly are in parts, it's more that they're just not any good.

Birds in Hell wrote:

darth_vedder wrote:I haven't listened to any boots other than Baltimore. I think that one turned me off from this whole tour. If I need a live PJ fix, I'll just play LO2L, the 2000 tour (any show), and The Guest Are So Refined (Japanese 2003 compilation).

That definitely sounds like a better idea than subjecting yourself to one of the recent shows. I've heard a bunch and I won't be making an effort to hear any more.

It's not even that they're consistently bad, though they certainly are in parts, it's more that they're just not any good.

They have their moments of being good, though. I think Lowlight's forthcoming compilation will likely show that ( ).

But, yeah, there's really no reason to sit and try to listen to all of these. It would not be enjoyable. A selected compilation, though, certainly can be.

hlniv wrote:A selected compilation, though, certainly can be.

Oh, for sure.

They still manage to stumble into moments of competency from time to time - I just don't have the patience to sit through a three hour show in the hope of finding one.

I had planned on making some kind of compilation from these shows but it's been a fruitless undertaking so far. I still might throw something together from the Australian shows, at least there's only a handful to make it through.

Competency? really, spenno?

Strat wrote:Competency? really, spenno?

You know full well that there's often an undercurrent of intentional hyperbole running through my posts at this place, Strat.

Spoiler: show

RIP Pearl Jam.

I was just making sure everything is still in it's right place!


RIP PJ indeed

I really don't think Glendale is bad or worse then any other shows. They really nailed around the bend here which was played maybe once. I was going through my 2011 choices today at work. Eds voice really has not been right since the Canadian tour ended. He did sound pretty good on that tour.

Strat wrote:K, Calgary is actually sounding pretty good. its somewhat on low volume at the office here but I look forward to giving this a proper listen. Did Ed actually not do a call and response daugther tag? Thats something right there.

I posted this in the what boots r u listening to.

Listened to most of Calgary. Some bloody awful moments from Ed, Mike and Stone. The delay/out of sync on the ride or a right cymbal is just slack production. Last Exit really felt deflated.

ho hum

Birds in Hell wrote:

hlniv wrote:A selected compilation, though, certainly can be.

Oh, for sure.

They still manage to stumble into moments of competency from time to time - I just don't have the patience to sit through a three hour show in the hope of finding one.

I had planned on making some kind of compilation from these shows but it's been a fruitless undertaking so far. I still might throw something together from the Australian shows, at least there's only a handful to make it through.

We are all counting on you to make this happen!

I'll make a 1-disc mix from November-December if somebody wants to help me out.

Just finished listening to Vancouver and Calgary. Both are really solid shows (with interesting setlists, specifically all the Binaural love in Vancouver), but neither really have that something special that would make me rate them over my favorites from the East Coast set... Philly 1, Hartford and Charlottesville.

Just a few more to go. Up next... San Diego, LA2 and Spokane.

Birds in Hell wrote:

hlniv wrote:A selected compilation, though, certainly can be.

Oh, for sure.

They still manage to stumble into moments of competency from time to time - I just don't have the patience to sit through a three hour show in the hope of finding one.

I had planned on making some kind of compilation from these shows but it's been a fruitless undertaking so far. I still might throw something together from the Australian shows, at least there's only a handful to make it through.

I think the troublesome thing about a band like Pearl Jam, who basically play their songs live exactly as they are on the records, is how easy even the simplest instances of decline are to pinpoint, and how moot those minute differences essentially render anything but the greatest of performances. Compared to someone like Bob Dylan, who even now tinkers with arrangements from tour to tour and constantly phrases his songs anew from night to night, such that oftentimes any sort of physical decay in the performance becomes harder to distinguish from intentional acts of modification (not to say they're all great--they're not), Pearl Jam rarely do anything new with their songs in a live setting--they just replicate them in increasingly reduced capacity. The last couple comps I heard (Spenno's 2012 Euro comp and Ridley's Cinderella comp) were breaking points of sorts for me--it's clear that these performances represent the band firing on all cylinders for their current limitations, and it still just makes me want to run screaming back to my 2000 boots.

The Calgary boot ended up being a mess for me. Betterman in particular is hilarious. McCready's guitar is out of tune yet he keeps on wanking away! He knows its out of tune but he just keeps on going.....

and going....

Having only heard Philly 1 and Vancouver, I have absolutely no problem with how the band sounds. I think they're actually really tight performances, I find that the entire problem lies with Ed. His inability to remember lyrics and his voice is just gone. By far he is the weak link in this band. Which really surprises me because for the first 15 years or so, he was always the strongpoint for me. I just never saw this shift coming.

Couldn't afford to see PJ this time around, what do ppl think of the Baltimore Arena bootleg, its got a nice set, considering making this purchase as it was the only PJ show in my town that I didnt go to.