The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

[Green Habit]

I get why this is such a big deal, but diplomacy has a weird, illogical way of translating facts on the ground at times.

[BurtReynolds]

It's kinda hilarious that we've sold billions of dollars in weapons to a person we won't call on the phone. Seems like arms dealing 101 to get a feel for the guy you're selling destroyers to. But what do I know about diplomacy.

[The Argonaut]

Have you been advising Trump, Burt?

[BurtReynolds]

Have you been advising Trump, Burt?

I'm a lock for Secretary of RM Affairs.

[dimejinky99]

Fuck this lads. Let's all just switch sides and support the bastard. Least that way he might let's us stay in the bunker when it goes tits up.

[96583UP]

He really does get a bad rap constantly from the press. I know he is an asshole, and a pig, etc. But, imagine if Bernie Sanders was elected, and took that call from Taiwan. He'd be hailed as the second coming of Chiang Kai Shek.

[96583UP]

Clearly, the democrats need to come back in four years with the message that whitey is the most important demographic that needs to be catered to. Fuck the Muslims, blacks, Mexicans, etc...

Oh, and we need to beef up our inner cities with stronger policing tactics so those uppity blacks won't be starting shit anymore.

No, because voter turnout was low. Democrats stayed home.

All the democrats need to come back with in four years is someone other than Hillary Clinton

[96583UP]

I get why this is such a big deal, but diplomacy has a weird, illogical way of translating facts on the ground at times.

Ari Fleischer is a cunt and belongs in jail. Of course he wouldn't want to piss of the Chinese. They financed all the Bush regime's bullshit by buying up US treasuries.

[McParadigm]

It's kinda hilarious that we've sold billions of dollars in weapons to a person we won't call on the phone. Seems like arms dealing 101 to get a feel for the guy you're selling destroyers to. But what do I know about diplomacy.

This is a great demonstration of why a simplistic view of international relations is impossible.

China itself trades with Taiwan to the tune of over 150 billion dollars...nearly a third of Taiwan's total trade. Thinking that either trade or weapons are equal in their mind to international legitimacy, or that their response to one is indicative of their response to another, is misguided. One need look no further than Diaoyu Dao for evidence of this. We can be any kind of friends with Japan and they couldn't care less, but if we so much as fly over the disputed territory, they become absolutely livid...because what chafes them is the implicit legitimacy we are implying to Japan's claim.

[BurtReynolds]

It's kinda hilarious that we've sold billions of dollars in weapons to a person we won't call on the phone. Seems like arms dealing 101 to get a feel for the guy you're selling destroyers to. But what do I know about diplomacy.

This is a great demonstration of why a simplistic view of international relations is impossible.

China itself trades with Taiwan to the tune of over 150 billion dollars...nearly a third of Taiwan's total trade. Thinking that either trade or weapons are equal in their mind to international legitimacy, or that their response to one is indicative of their response to another, is misguided. One need look no further than Diaoyu Dao for evidence of this. We can be any kind of friends with Japan and they couldn't care less, but if we so much and fly over the disputed territory, they become absolutely livid...because what chafes them is the implicit legitimacy we are implying to Japan's claim.

This is a hysterical overreaction not remotely in line with the real implications, and is being brought up by the Left and the media to damage Trump, nothing more. But this is exactly the kinda shit that backfires for them every time.

The Chinese aren't so stupid that they don't know the real world difference between selling arms to their enemies and chatting them up on the phone. They will use it as an excuse to rattle sabres, and if this didn't happen, they'd find another excuse. And who says we have to walk on eggshells around them anyway? I see no problem with talking to our allies: our very obvious allies that everyone knows about.

[BurtReynolds]

Now China is gonna nuke Taiwan and I'm gonna have egg all over my face.

[96583UP]

Now China is gonna nuke Taiwan and I'm gonna have egg roll all over my face.

ftfy

[bart]

fun fact: egg foo young actually translates literally to "egg on face"

[96583UP]

i am so stupid too because I had considered 'foo young' instead of 'roll', but I am a dull wank; and I was scared that 'foo young' might seem too racist.

in fact, 'foo young' was the more appropriate term. the hilarity would have been incredibly amplified.

you only get a few chances like that in your life.

really burns when you miss it.

not sure when I will ever get that chance again.

i will carry this regret for a long time.

and now i must bid you all, good day.

[96583UP]

unless you are lying to me

[BurtReynolds]

China's reaction so far has largely been ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

We could learn a lot from them.

[Kaius]

I could do China.

[96583UP]

they could just be plotting their next move, such as:

trying that much harder to steal more of our trade secrets; or

sailing a battleship straight through Taiwan harbor to show their moxy; or

engaging in a shop-in at the Trump Tower Gucci store; or

tweeting this to ivanka and jared kushner:

[simple schoolboy]

Did I miss the Mattis love somewhere in this thread?

[simple schoolboy]

they could just be plotting their next move, such as:
...

sailing a battleship straight through Taiwan harbor to show their moxy...

Has China ever operated a battleship? They wish they had a battleship. Maybe Trump will Make America Great Again by laying down a few more Iowa Class battleships, and parading them down the Taiwain straight to cross the T against some Chinese patrol ships.

Is this how we make America great again?