Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat December 03, 2016 12:32 am
I get why this is such a big deal, but diplomacy has a weird, illogical way of translating facts on the ground at times.McParadigm wrote:
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Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat December 03, 2016 12:57 am
It's kinda hilarious that we've sold billions of dollars in weapons to a person we won't call on the phone. Seems like arms dealing 101 to get a feel for the guy you're selling destroyers to. But what do I know about diplomacy.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat December 03, 2016 2:11 am
Have you been advising Trump, Burt?
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat December 03, 2016 2:20 am
I'm a lock for Secretary of RM Affairs.The Argonaut wrote:Have you been advising Trump, Burt?
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat December 03, 2016 2:31 am
Fuck this lads. Let's all just switch sides and support the bastard. Least that way he might let's us stay in the bunker when it goes tits up.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat December 03, 2016 2:47 am
He really does get a bad rap constantly from the press. I know he is an asshole, and a pig, etc. But, imagine if Bernie Sanders was elected, and took that call from Taiwan. He'd be hailed as the second coming of Chiang Kai Shek.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat December 03, 2016 2:51 am
No, because voter turnout was low. Democrats stayed home.wease wrote:Clearly, the democrats need to come back in four years with the message that whitey is the most important demographic that needs to be catered to. Fuck the Muslims, blacks, Mexicans, etc...
Oh, and we need to beef up our inner cities with stronger policing tactics so those uppity blacks won't be starting shit anymore.
All the democrats need to come back with in four years is someone other than Hillary Clinton
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat December 03, 2016 2:55 am
Ari Fleischer is a cunt and belongs in jail. Of course he wouldn't want to piss of the Chinese. They financed all the Bush regime's bullshit by buying up US treasuries.Green Habit wrote:I get why this is such a big deal, but diplomacy has a weird, illogical way of translating facts on the ground at times.McParadigm wrote:
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat December 03, 2016 3:16 am
This is a great demonstration of why a simplistic view of international relations is impossible.BurtReynolds wrote:It's kinda hilarious that we've sold billions of dollars in weapons to a person we won't call on the phone. Seems like arms dealing 101 to get a feel for the guy you're selling destroyers to. But what do I know about diplomacy.
China itself trades with Taiwan to the tune of over 150 billion dollars...nearly a third of Taiwan's total trade. Thinking that either trade or weapons are equal in their mind to international legitimacy, or that their response to one is indicative of their response to another, is misguided. One need look no further than Diaoyu Dao for evidence of this. We can be any kind of friends with Japan and they couldn't care less, but if we so much as fly over the disputed territory, they become absolutely livid...because what chafes them is the implicit legitimacy we are implying to Japan's claim.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat December 03, 2016 3:26 am
This is a hysterical overreaction not remotely in line with the real implications, and is being brought up by the Left and the media to damage Trump, nothing more. But this is exactly the kinda shit that backfires for them every time.McParadigm wrote:This is a great demonstration of why a simplistic view of international relations is impossible.BurtReynolds wrote:It's kinda hilarious that we've sold billions of dollars in weapons to a person we won't call on the phone. Seems like arms dealing 101 to get a feel for the guy you're selling destroyers to. But what do I know about diplomacy.
China itself trades with Taiwan to the tune of over 150 billion dollars...nearly a third of Taiwan's total trade. Thinking that either trade or weapons are equal in their mind to international legitimacy, or that their response to one is indicative of their response to another, is misguided. One need look no further than Diaoyu Dao for evidence of this. We can be any kind of friends with Japan and they couldn't care less, but if we so much and fly over the disputed territory, they become absolutely livid...because what chafes them is the implicit legitimacy we are implying to Japan's claim.
The Chinese aren't so stupid that they don't know the real world difference between selling arms to their enemies and chatting them up on the phone. They will use it as an excuse to rattle sabres, and if this didn't happen, they'd find another excuse. And who says we have to walk on eggshells around them anyway? I see no problem with talking to our allies: our very obvious allies that everyone knows about.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat December 03, 2016 3:33 am
Now China is gonna nuke Taiwan and I'm gonna have egg all over my face.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat December 03, 2016 3:52 am
ftfyBurtReynolds wrote:Now China is gonna nuke Taiwan and I'm gonna have egg roll all over my face.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat December 03, 2016 4:02 am
fun fact: egg foo young actually translates literally to "egg on face"
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat December 03, 2016 5:13 am
i am so stupid too because I had considered 'foo young' instead of 'roll', but I am a dull wank; and I was scared that 'foo young' might seem too racist.
in fact, 'foo young' was the more appropriate term. the hilarity would have been incredibly amplified.
you only get a few chances like that in your life.
really burns when you miss it.
not sure when I will ever get that chance again.
i will carry this regret for a long time.
and now i must bid you all, good day.
in fact, 'foo young' was the more appropriate term. the hilarity would have been incredibly amplified.
you only get a few chances like that in your life.
really burns when you miss it.
not sure when I will ever get that chance again.
i will carry this regret for a long time.
and now i must bid you all, good day.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat December 03, 2016 5:14 am
unless you are lying to me
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat December 03, 2016 5:22 am
China's reaction so far has largely been ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
We could learn a lot from them.
We could learn a lot from them.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat December 03, 2016 5:30 am
I could do China.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat December 03, 2016 5:33 am
they could just be plotting their next move, such as:
trying that much harder to steal more of our trade secrets; or
sailing a battleship straight through Taiwan harbor to show their moxy; or
engaging in a shop-in at the Trump Tower Gucci store; or
tweeting this to ivanka and jared kushner:
trying that much harder to steal more of our trade secrets; or
sailing a battleship straight through Taiwan harbor to show their moxy; or
engaging in a shop-in at the Trump Tower Gucci store; or
tweeting this to ivanka and jared kushner:
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat December 03, 2016 7:33 am
Did I miss the Mattis love somewhere in this thread?
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat December 03, 2016 7:37 am
Has China ever operated a battleship? They wish they had a battleship. Maybe Trump will Make America Great Again by laying down a few more Iowa Class battleships, and parading them down the Taiwain straight to cross the T against some Chinese patrol ships.96583UP wrote:they could just be plotting their next move, such as:
...
sailing a battleship straight through Taiwan harbor to show their moxy...
Is this how we make America great again?