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Re: MLB
Posted: Sun October 18, 2015 3:14 am
by BDB
spike wrote:verb_to_trust wrote:When you are too much of a pussy to throw to a base, cant handle the bat one single bit and you mandate David Ross play in a major league game you better be lights out. Lester has just been a slight disappointment this year as a result....
155 million dollars...
if his two playoff starts would have been up to expectations (wins), then I think the regular season performance is forgiven. This is why they have him is for these games. He just appears to have no confidence on the mound.
Re: MLB
Posted: Sun October 18, 2015 12:26 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
Royals/Mets would be an awful series
Re: MLB
Posted: Sun October 18, 2015 12:54 pm
by numbers
I've always thought Lester wasn't near good enough to merit a personal catcher.
Re: MLB
Posted: Sun October 18, 2015 1:32 pm
by spike
numbers wrote:I've always thought Lester wasn't near good enough to merit a personal catcher.

Re: MLB
Posted: Sun October 18, 2015 5:05 pm
by verb_to_trust
The personal catcher is such a rediculous concept. If anything, they should be partnered with young first year starters about to grind through their first year in the bigs, not top dollar proven commodities.
Re: MLB
Posted: Sun October 18, 2015 5:11 pm
by The Argonaut
I think it's an extension of the pervasive superstitious character of baseball players in general. It really shouldn't be endorsed by management.
Re: MLB
Posted: Sun October 18, 2015 5:41 pm
by numbers
I don't have a problem when a team has a pairing hat is obviously working, but when guys have their own personal catcher and they can't work with another one is where I draw the line.
Re: MLB
Posted: Sun October 18, 2015 5:50 pm
by The Argonaut
Some guys just can't catch the knuckleball.
Re: MLB
Posted: Sun October 18, 2015 8:07 pm
by verb_to_trust
It wouldnt be as big of an issue if guys like Ross weren't such a zero at the plate.
Re: MLB
Posted: Sun October 18, 2015 8:26 pm
by The Argonaut
Yeah, it's not really an issue that a back-up catcher gets a point in his favor for having a good relationship with an ace. But it seems like the idea of signing David Ross was a conversation Lester had with the Cubs before he signed with them. The right catcher can be very important to a young pitcher. A veteran like Lester shouldn't need to be so dependent on a specific catcher.
Re: MLB
Posted: Sun October 18, 2015 9:21 pm
by spike
oh but david ross has been invaluable in the clubhouse with all these young players!
Re: MLB
Posted: Sun October 18, 2015 9:36 pm
by Norah
david ross is the man
Re: MLB
Posted: Sun October 18, 2015 11:20 pm
by verb_to_trust
He may be, but he sucks at baseball.
Re: MLB
Posted: Sun October 18, 2015 11:45 pm
by Norah
he went on a tear in the 2013 alcs
Re: MLB
Posted: Sun October 18, 2015 11:50 pm
by Chris_H_2
i don't know. Greg? maddux insisted that paul bako be his catcher because of trust and he made him more relaxed.
Re: MLB
Posted: Mon October 19, 2015 12:08 am
by The Argonaut
The back-up catcher is probably the least important spot on the roster. Offensively, most teams don't get a lot out of their starting catcher, let alone the backup. Teams just need a guy who can go out there 25-40 times a year so the starting catcher's knees don't break in half every August. So having a specific pitcher-catcher pairing doesn't really change what a team would be doing anyway. In the postseason, it's obnxious. The only reason to have a backup catcher in the postseason is as insurance.
Re: MLB
Posted: Mon October 19, 2015 12:11 am
by spike
Chris_H_2 wrote:i don't know. Greg? maddux insisted that paul bako be his catcher because of trust and he made him more relaxed.
lester is no maddux
Re: MLB
Posted: Mon October 19, 2015 12:12 am
by spike
The Argonaut wrote:The back-up catcher is probably the least important spot on the roster. Offensively, most teams don't get a lot out of their starting catcher, let alone the backup. Teams just need a guy who can go out there 25-40 times a year so the starting catcher's knees don't break in half every August. So having a specific pitcher-catcher pairing doesn't really change what a team would be doing anyway. In the postseason, it's obnxious. The only reason to have a backup catcher in the postseason is as insurance.
the catcher, whether it be the starter or backup, has a huge influence on games.
Re: MLB
Posted: Mon October 19, 2015 12:16 am
by Norah
Cubs fans are starting to lose their cool.
Re: MLB
Posted: Mon October 19, 2015 12:20 am
by spike