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Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Mon February 12, 2024 11:03 pm
by tragabigzanda
Agreed on the mid tempo burners.

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Mon February 12, 2024 11:10 pm
by Tj
I like short songs look at Wouldn't it be Nice by the Beach Boys oo White Rabbit by Jefferson Airplane they cove so much territory musically in a tiny window. When Pearl Jam do a short song they seam to just speed it up to get over with.

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Mon February 12, 2024 11:12 pm
by Jorge
"I Love Rockn'roll" is only 2:55

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Mon February 12, 2024 11:14 pm
by Jorge
Now, "Beverly Hills" by Weezer -- the other song this will probably sound like -- is a whopping 3:17

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Mon February 12, 2024 11:14 pm
by Ms Harmless
I mean yeah those are good short songs, I just think Pearl Jam have been trying some things they're not good at for a long time now, short songs being one of them; Gigaton showed the start of a course-correction, I want more

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Mon February 12, 2024 11:18 pm
by Tj
Ms Harmless wrote:I mean yeah those are good short songs, I just think Pearl Jam have been trying some things they're not good at for a long time now, short songs being one of them; Gigaton showed the start of a course-correction, I want more
I agree completely. I just would love them to get good at it.

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Mon February 12, 2024 11:18 pm
by Jaeti
RockPusher wrote:I'm certainly nervous that the album will be short without a lot of long songs. Earthling is 13 songs and 48 minutes. If it were 11 songs, that would be right around the 40 minute mark. Hopefully I'm right about Watt understanding how critical the "jam" aspect of this band is, and he adjusts accordingly.

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Mon February 12, 2024 11:19 pm
by 96583UP
i have faith that Wottmansczysnki added a 7-minute Mike solo to each of these songs

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Mon February 12, 2024 11:21 pm
by RockPusher
Ms Harmless wrote:I mean yeah those are good short songs, I just think Pearl Jam have been trying some things they're not good at for a long time now, short songs being one of them; Gigaton showed the start of a course-correction, I want more
:thumbsup:

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Mon February 12, 2024 11:23 pm
by Tj
I realized even my absolute favorite PJ songs never leave me wanting more. In comparison Lateralus from Tool is 10 min and it's over in a blink and i.want ro repeat it over and over.

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Mon February 12, 2024 11:31 pm
by dprival78
physically preparing myself to pump my fist to the chorus tonight

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Mon February 12, 2024 11:32 pm
by Gigalogy84
RockPusher wrote:
Gigalogy84 wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:guys what if this song is only 3 minutes long? that'll suck

it's got to travel somewhere for... 5 minutes at least
Quality > Quantity for me no matter the track length. I just want it to be a good song and the clips are promising.
Sure, but let's take midtempo burners- this band seems to have a sweetspot in the 4 to 5 min zone (I haven't done any analysis, this is just what my memory says). These songs need time to breathe. Solo. Bridge. If we're lucky, second solo, a bit more unhinged, and then LET IT PLAY OUT (I'm looking at you, BO'B).

If there's a fast little Blood type fucker of a song, then sure, 3 min is fine. But give me something else that I can really sink my teeth into as a counterbalance.

I understand what you mean. Even if a song is five to seven minutes long I would like it as long as it is good. There have been times where bands would release longer songs but I’ve felt like they would overstay their welcome.

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Mon February 12, 2024 11:39 pm
by Gigalogy84
Tj wrote:I like short songs look at Wouldn't it be Nice by the Beach Boys oo White Rabbit by Jefferson Airplane they cove so much territory musically in a tiny window. When Pearl Jam do a short song they seam to just speed it up to get over with.
Really? I really like some of the shorter songs like Spin The Black Circle, Animal, MFC, Comatose…. I can’t imagine them trying to make those songs longer. They sound perfect the way they are to me.

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Mon February 12, 2024 11:44 pm
by Buby
dprival78 wrote:physically preparing myself to pump my fist to the chorus tonight
Same here!
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Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Mon February 12, 2024 11:56 pm
by Tj
Gigalogy84 wrote:
Tj wrote:I like short songs look at Wouldn't it be Nice by the Beach Boys oo White Rabbit by Jefferson Airplane they cove so much territory musically in a tiny window. When Pearl Jam do a short song they seam to just speed it up to get over with.
Really? I really like some of the shorter songs like Spin The Black Circle, Animal, MFC, Comatose…. I can’t imagine them trying to make those songs longer. They sound perfect the way they are to me.
That was my point and I'm talking like sub 3 min songs. I would say of those MFC and Comatose could have been expanded. What was more the point is you can have a 1:56 sec song with out it being spritz or acoustic folk singer dribble. No Ceiling is a perfect short song in contrast Setting Forth is a song with the bones but is bulimic and just doesn't thrive.

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue February 13, 2024 12:05 am
by DDWJMUVW
YouTube fella says 50 mins - an hour.

We shall see if his recollection of time is accurate.

60/11 = avg track length of 5.45 (seems unlikely)

50/11 = avg track length of 4.55 (more reasonable)

Gig was 57 min with 12 tracks for a mean of 4.75

Ten was 53/11 for 4.82 (but w huge caveat of master slave at the end of release)

Backspacer clocked in at a depressing 36/11 or 3.27 - ouch!


I could see anywhere from 45-55 minutes.

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue February 13, 2024 12:06 am
by B
Are you guys all ready for your video reactions?
Pearl Jam wrote:Incoming transmission to Ten Club: New PJ midnight ET. Post a reaction video tonight on your socials. Tag @pearljam, use #darkmatter and you might get featured.
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Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue February 13, 2024 12:07 am
by stip
so is this a spotify drop? Youtube?

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue February 13, 2024 12:08 am
by evenslow
Deciding now whether or not to blow this thing out and start drinking or just wake up and listen to it like an old person.

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue February 13, 2024 12:09 am
by Strat
stip wrote:so is this a spotify drop? Youtube?
It's just a single being released. Therefore it'll be released everywheee.

I swear to god people. Do ya all not listen to any music but new Pearl Jam every six years ?