Red Mosquito

stip wrote:i forget the exact dialogue but

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leia “i cant take another loss”
holdo, smiling “sure you can”

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my moment in all this is luke and leia reuniting..im sure they did some work on lukes eyes as he looks at leia..so clear so sharp..hes that small farm booy again but new..that whole moment just rang true and perfect and he kisses her and says farewell at the end...all while luke and leias theme plays over the top....just magical..this was the last moment we have anything from our big three..we will never see them together again. this is goodbye for everyone....just so powerful

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So, just an hour later after seeing this, but overall I liked it. Some quibbles and praise:

Snoke looked fake when moving; reminded me of the prequel technology. Glad he was killed off. I did like how he connected Kylo to Ren and tricked Kylo. Still, he looked like a cartoon character. Disappointed also that we still don't know where and how and who this Snoke came from?

This force projection sort of comes out of nowhere; I understand it's canon, but Episode 8 seemed like an odd/convenient time to break out this power. Introducing it does help reboot the franchise Jedi thing

Did the slave at the end use the force to get the broom? If so, that is cool, meaning Luke's death inspires many, and anyone, really, can use the force. It's not for royal blood, hence why Rey comes from nobody parents, which I was fine - if it was revealed that her parents were Obi, Luke or someone we know would have been a downer and cliche so I like that she comes from nowhere/nobodies

The Kylo/Rey duo taking on those guards was awesome; all that good killing

I thought about half of the jokes were really good and the other half a bit cringe worthy

It's too bad Carrie Fisher is dead; now I see how she could have had a bigger role in 9.

stip wrote:finished second viewing. This may be the best one, guys.

4 moments my theater burst into applause

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kylo killing snoke
kylo’s final guard kill in that fight in the throne room
like surviving the artillery fire
the reveal that he was a projection

4 times i teared up

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leia/holdo’s goodbye
‘i am not the last jedi
luke’s death
the final shot of the slave boy sloy lifting his broom like a lightsaber

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Substitute the shot of Luke and Yoda watching the tree burn with Holdo/Leia and I’m right there with you and the tears.

Coach wrote:Interesting read...spoilers of course: http://www.denofgeek.com/uk/movies/star ... xploration

Sgt. Crackpot wrote:Since majority of the posts here in this thread are spoilers, is anyone against allowing posts without spoiler tags from now on?

This would only apply strictly in this thread. For any other thread, spoiler tags should still apply for the time being.

VinylGuy wrote:

Coach wrote:Interesting read...spoilers of course: http://www.denofgeek.com/uk/movies/star ... xploration

I agree with a lot of what the writer says here..A lot of what i liked about the movie and what i hated it.

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Especially agree with this:

For this writer, though, there's an occasional sense that Johnson is struggling somewhat to track all these plot threads and, at the same time, give the characters meaningful things to do. An example of this can be seen early on: a curious hologram conversation between Poe Dameron and Maz Kanata, who appears to be engaged in some kind of gun battle even as she'd dishing out advice. Granted, Maz does have some useful information to impart - it's she who tells Finn and his new sidekick, Rose (a great Kelly Marie Tran) about the hacker who can help them with their mission. But that info could just have easily been dished out by Poe Dameron himself; the scene appears to function as a simple reminder that, after the confusion on the planet Takodana in The Force Awakens, Maz Kanata really is still alive.

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Rey holding the two halves of Luke/Anakin/Rey's lightsaber as she was talking to Leia at the end. I'm very glad it's not gone.

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For the first half of this movie I found it pretty fun and enjoyable but then as some of the desired big reveals were letdowns one after another. I started to wonder if the task of this film was too big for Johnson.

Who is Rey: Nobody
Who is Snoke: Doesn't Matter He's Dead (see Darth Maul)
What Will Rey Find in the Hole: Nothing
Why is Luke so Grumpy: He Almost Killed Ben

These non-reveals were big missed opportunities and now I am not really sure where the tension is for a final movie.

I liked seeing and hearing Yoda school Luke again.
I liked the sprinkling of humor but feel like Oscar Isaac is being wasted.
The ships chasing each other was a horribly painfully slow and boring plot point
Too much-forced diversity Disney. Dial it back just a little. Even stuttering DJ felt like an agenda item.
No Knights of Ren
Leia flying was dumb. They should have rewritten when Carrie passed to find some way to make her go out heroically. What do you do with Leia now?

This movie tied up too many threads--and not well-- to be a bridge movie. What does JJ do now?
I think the point for me is the scale of Star Wars needs to be refined down to something smaller in scope. Not 5 side stories that drag on, but ensemble story-telling and acting.

Ledbetterdays wrote:A few spoilery thoughts from a long-time fan

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For the first half of this movie I found it pretty fun and enjoyable but then as some of the desired big reveals were letdowns one after another. I started to wonder if the task of this film was too big for Johnson.

Who is Rey: Nobody
Who is Snoke: Doesn't Matter He's Dead (see Darth Maul)
What Will Rey Find in the Hole: Nothing
Why is Luke so Grumpy: He Almost Killed Ben

These non-reveals were big missed opportunities and now I am not really sure where the tension is for a final movie.

I liked seeing and hearing Yoda school Luke again.
I liked the sprinkling of humor but feel like Oscar Isaac is being wasted.
The ships chasing each other was a horribly painfully slow and boring plot point
Too much-forced diversity Disney. Dial it back just a little. Even stuttering DJ felt like an agenda item.
No Knights of Ren
Leia flying was dumb. They should have rewritten when Carrie passed to find some way to make her go out heroically. What do you do with Leia now?

This movie tied up too many threads--and not well-- to be a bridge movie. What does JJ do now?
I think the point for me is the scale of Star Wars needs to be refined down to something smaller in scope. Not 5 side stories that drag on, but ensemble story-telling and acting.

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I dont quite get why everyone seem to love Poe. He is worthless to me...And Isaac performance is the same not matter whats happening.
Same thing. Same emotions. Same energy...he is such a good actor and in this saga he is the worst.

VinylGuy wrote:

Ledbetterdays wrote:A few spoilery thoughts from a long-time fan

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For the first half of this movie I found it pretty fun and enjoyable but then as some of the desired big reveals were letdowns one after another. I started to wonder if the task of this film was too big for Johnson.

Who is Rey: Nobody
Who is Snoke: Doesn't Matter He's Dead (see Darth Maul)
What Will Rey Find in the Hole: Nothing
Why is Luke so Grumpy: He Almost Killed Ben

These non-reveals were big missed opportunities and now I am not really sure where the tension is for a final movie.

I liked seeing and hearing Yoda school Luke again.
I liked the sprinkling of humor but feel like Oscar Isaac is being wasted.
The ships chasing each other was a horribly painfully slow and boring plot point
Too much-forced diversity Disney. Dial it back just a little. Even stuttering DJ felt like an agenda item.
No Knights of Ren
Leia flying was dumb. They should have rewritten when Carrie passed to find some way to make her go out heroically. What do you do with Leia now?

This movie tied up too many threads--and not well-- to be a bridge movie. What does JJ do now?
I think the point for me is the scale of Star Wars needs to be refined down to something smaller in scope. Not 5 side stories that drag on, but ensemble story-telling and acting.

I agree with most of your views.

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I dont quite get why everyone seem to love Poe. He is worthless to me...And Isaac performance is the same not matter whats happening.
Same thing. Same emotions. Same energy...he is such a good actor and in this saga he is the worst.

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rad movie. not sure how i feel about leia dying then living,
luke living then dying. what's the point of hologram luke if just dies anyway?

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the beginning space battle sequence had some tits shots. the 3D really worked too.

spike wrote:

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what's the point of hologram luke if just dies anyway?

McParadigm wrote:

spike wrote:

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what's the point of hologram luke if just dies anyway?

Wait yeah

Sgt. Crackpot wrote:

McParadigm wrote:

spike wrote:

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what's the point of hologram luke if just dies anyway?

Wait yeah