Red Mosquito

spike wrote:

Chris_H_2 wrote:why anyone that could live elsewhere would choose to live in florida and be stressed and riddled with constant anxiety that every year, during a given two-month period, your home could be destroyed is beyond me.

at some point, every property and casualty insurer is going to hightail it out of there, right?

I think insurance companies are already pulling out, refusing coverage, etc.

Not gonna lie, a small part of hanging onto our property in Chicago was the thought of climate refugees paying a premium sooner rather than later.

Did they ever figure out how to unwind federally subsidized flood insurance or are we all still on the hook for that?

i was under the impression a lot of insurers already stopped insuring in FL

bc they had these f'ed up rules where contractors could exploit them

so now basically the state is insurer of last resort

and in classic GOP bonehead fashion, rather than amending the rules in order to attract insurers back

they launched threatening comments at them that 'there would be investigations'

and now if a fuckton of houses get destroyed they are either uninsured or the entity backed by the state is the insurer

and the state won't be able to pay out all the claims

that FL governor might have a mighty financial mess on his hands

source: trust me bro

fr though 180 mph winds? i can't even imagine what that looks / feels like

i really hope people in the path get the f out

and what if this thing hits and then stalls over the atlantic side?

and do people realize what high tide looks like when a hurricane is overhead? what a higher water level alone can do, wind aside?

fortunately not a full moon right now

scary

simple schoolboy wrote:

spike wrote:

Chris_H_2 wrote:why anyone that could live elsewhere would choose to live in florida and be stressed and riddled with constant anxiety that every year, during a given two-month period, your home could be destroyed is beyond me.

at some point, every property and casualty insurer is going to hightail it out of there, right?

I think insurance companies are already pulling out, refusing coverage, etc.

Not gonna lie, a small part of hanging onto our property in Chicago was the thought of climate refugees paying a premium sooner rather than later.

Did they ever figure out how to unwind federally subsidized flood insurance or are we all still on the hook for that?

Lamenting that we’re all paying for the various weather disasters in the south and California was our HOA treasurer’s go to remark whenever an owner asked why our building’s premiums kept going up, and he was clearly too lazy to shop around for a better rate.

96583UP wrote:fr though 180 mph winds? i can't even imagine what that looks / feels like

i really hope people in the path get the f out

and what if this thing hits and then stalls over the atlantic side?

and do people realize what high tide looks like when a hurricane is overhead? what a higher water level alone can do, wind aside?

fortunately not a full moon right now

scary

Could this thing essentially end up having the effect of a severe tornado, since it’ll blow through so quickly? More wind damage than flooding.

tragabigzanda wrote:They should’ve name this one something biblical to really get their attention. Matthew or Mark or whatever.

Idunno Paradise Lost is pretty fitting to me.

honest question

how is it housing in places like florida and tornado alley/ midwest, arent built with concrete, like the rest of the world?

youd lose a few windows and roof tiles and your deck chairs, but your house would still be there.

whats up with having you house destroyed every few years and then having to pay out to rebuild?

As someone who lives in a part of the US that gets tornadoes, I can assure you strong winds will destroy most building materials, including concrete. I can only imagine that strong winds + water would do worse.

dad wrote:As someone who lives in a part of the US that gets tornadoes, I can assure you strong winds will destroy most building materials, including concrete. I can only imagine that strong winds + water would do worse.

to a degree but the house would still be there. Not strewn across the entire street or miles away with the rest of em


always wonder how natives americans dealt with this back then. Simple as digging a hole or holding onto a tree?

I don't think concrete houses would work well in Florida. They'd probably sink into the swamp.

BurtReynolds wrote:I don't think concrete houses would work well in Florida. They'd probably sink into the swamp.

yep.

Once I lived in Louisiana in a house with something like a basement made of concrete. It was always flooding because a basement in Louisiana is an absurdity, but I was amazed how water was able to go through concrete without much trouble..

dimejinky99 wrote:

dad wrote:As someone who lives in a part of the US that gets tornadoes, I can assure you strong winds will destroy most building materials, including concrete. I can only imagine that strong winds + water would do worse.

to a degree but the house would still be there. Not strewn across the entire street or miles away with the rest of em


always wonder how natives americans dealt with this back then. Simple as digging a hole or holding onto a tree?

I’m just assuming here, I don’t have any specific knowledge, but I remember way back when reading about how isolated/uncontacted peoples survived the 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami in larger numbers than people anticipated, and you’ve gotta assume Native Americans had similar knowledge developed over thousands of years. Here’s a contemporaneous article: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/wbna6786476

Simple Torture wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:

dad wrote:As someone who lives in a part of the US that gets tornadoes, I can assure you strong winds will destroy most building materials, including concrete. I can only imagine that strong winds + water would do worse.

to a degree but the house would still be there. Not strewn across the entire street or miles away with the rest of em


always wonder how natives americans dealt with this back then. Simple as digging a hole or holding onto a tree?

I’m just assuming here, I don’t have any specific knowledge, but I remember way back when reading about how isolated/uncontacted peoples survived the 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami in larger numbers than people anticipated, and you’ve gotta assume Native Americans had similar knowledge developed over thousands of years. Here’s a contemporaneous article: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/wbna6786476

thats mental. thanks for that

At least in South Florida the overwhelming majority of houses are concrete block. Basically everything post-Andrew (1992) has to be and most of the really old stuff (1920s-60s) like my current house are also concrete block. Most of the stuff you see getting destroyed from wind damage are either mobile homes or second stories that are wood framed.

spike wrote:

That’s fucking incredible.

wease wrote:

spike wrote:

That’s fucking incredible.

I'm impressed that the streetlights stay lit during a 9ft storm surge. Florida has great infrastructure!

it used to have