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Re: Retrograde
Posted: Sun October 25, 2020 2:59 am
by 96583UP
guitar_davey wrote:Birds in Hell wrote:The spacey outro is definitely the glaring weak point in the song for me.
I actually quite like the first half.
Wait, I thought everybody here hated the first half but thought the song was redeemed by the outro?!
I'm confused.
everyone knows the first 7 seconds is the peak of the song that's why i obsessively can't get it out of my head
Re: Retrograde
Posted: Sun October 25, 2020 3:23 am
by tragabigzanda
Re: Retrograde
Posted: Sun October 25, 2020 4:09 am
by 96583UP
tragabigzanda wrote:I love this whole song, with the exception of how weak the first drum drop sounds
chlamydic?
Re: Retrograde
Posted: Sun October 25, 2020 4:16 am
by tragabigzanda
Re: Retrograde
Posted: Sun October 25, 2020 4:18 am
by 96583UP
tragabigzanda wrote:96583UP wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:I love this whole song, with the exception of how weak the first drum drop sounds
chlamydic?
More like vasectomatt
matt needs to dirty-up his kit for PJ
the technician stuff works for SG bc they do interesting time signatures
with PJ he needs to grow his hair and beard and loosen up that snare and channel his inner jim henson character
Re: Retrograde
Posted: Sun October 25, 2020 5:51 pm
by igotworms
Matt is a wonderfully technical drummer, and that really works on the tracks he has written but he definitely needs to learn how to loosen up a bit, although at this point I dont see that happening. He's just got no 'swing', everything is super tight. And he can be too busy by far at times - his contribution to River Cross is appalling IMO. I love the dude but sometimes I do think it'd be interesting to have someone else filling the drum stool.
Re: Retrograde
Posted: Mon October 26, 2020 9:18 am
by Ms Harmless
I have plenty of complaints about Matt but "too busy" is not one of them; too loud / heavy-handed on tracks that don't really call for it? that's arguable; but his grooves are basic
Re: Retrograde
Posted: Mon October 26, 2020 8:00 pm
by PHATJ
“Contribution to River Cross is appalling”
Re: Retrograde
Posted: Mon October 26, 2020 9:46 pm
by igotworms
Ms Harmless wrote:I have plenty of complaints about Matt but "too busy" is not one of them; too loud / heavy-handed on tracks that don't really call for it? that's arguable; but his grooves are basic
What I mean by busy is there are times when he's hellbent on contributing when there's no need - the verses of River Cross are a case in point, where he's adding unnecessary percussion. Sometimes less is more. And sometimes no drumming is required at all.
Re: Retrograde
Posted: Mon October 26, 2020 10:00 pm
by VinylGuy
i fucking love what he is doing in River Cross.
Re: Retrograde
Posted: Mon October 26, 2020 10:01 pm
by Monkey_Driven
VinylGuy wrote:i fucking love what he is doing in River Cross.
Same.
Re: Retrograde
Posted: Mon October 26, 2020 10:31 pm
by Leatherhead
Monkey_Driven wrote:VinylGuy wrote:i fucking love what he is doing in River Cross.
Same.
Same.
Re: Retrograde
Posted: Mon October 26, 2020 11:10 pm
by igotworms
Leatherhead wrote:Monkey_Driven wrote:VinylGuy wrote:i fucking love what he is doing in River Cross.
Same.
Same.
Irritates the crap out of me. I half expect him to shout out "boats and ho's" while playing.
Re: Retrograde
Posted: Tue October 27, 2020 2:14 am
by 96583UP
River Cross is too busy on the album
the ed solo version much better
Re: Retrograde
Posted: Tue October 27, 2020 2:44 am
by Leatherhead
Bonkers.
Re: Retrograde
Posted: Tue October 27, 2020 8:39 am
by igotworms
96583UP wrote:
River Cross is too busy on the album
the ed solo version much better
Yup
Re: Retrograde
Posted: Tue October 27, 2020 9:59 pm
by Ms Harmless
igotworms wrote:Ms Harmless wrote:I have plenty of complaints about Matt but "too busy" is not one of them; too loud / heavy-handed on tracks that don't really call for it? that's arguable; but his grooves are basic
What I mean by busy is there are times when he's hellbent on contributing when there's no need - the verses of River Cross are a case in point, where he's adding unnecessary percussion. Sometimes less is more. And sometimes no drumming is required at all.
River Cross would work really well with no drums, in the verses or at all, but I don't think they ruin the song, they just give it a different flavour
Re: Retrograde
Posted: Tue October 27, 2020 10:01 pm
by Bammer
Ms Harmless wrote:igotworms wrote:Ms Harmless wrote:I have plenty of complaints about Matt but "too busy" is not one of them; too loud / heavy-handed on tracks that don't really call for it? that's arguable; but his grooves are basic
What I mean by busy is there are times when he's hellbent on contributing when there's no need - the verses of River Cross are a case in point, where he's adding unnecessary percussion. Sometimes less is more. And sometimes no drumming is required at all.
River Cross would work really well with no drums, in the verses or at all, but I don't think they ruin the song, they just give it a different flavour
Spelling it “flavour” because you are in the UK.
I’ll allow it.
Re: Retrograde
Posted: Tue October 27, 2020 11:24 pm
by PHATJ
Leatherhead wrote:Monkey_Driven wrote:VinylGuy wrote:i fucking love what he is doing in River Cross.
Same.
Same.
Re: Retrograde
Posted: Tue October 27, 2020 11:25 pm
by PHATJ
igotworms wrote:96583UP wrote:
River Cross is too busy on the album
the ed solo version much better
Yup
lol no