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Re: MLB
Posted: Thu August 22, 2013 1:06 am
by numbers
cutuphalfdead wrote:numbers wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:@SkitchP wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:But my point is, we're not winning the World Series with those piece of shit arms that Peavy prevents coming up, but we're not winning it with Peavy either.
and my point is I

Jose Iglesias
Me too.
He made an insane play the other night that made my toes curl.
That barehanded flip?
yea
Re: MLB
Posted: Thu August 22, 2013 1:07 am
by Norah
numbers wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:numbers wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:@SkitchP wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:But my point is, we're not winning the World Series with those piece of shit arms that Peavy prevents coming up, but we're not winning it with Peavy either.
and my point is I

Jose Iglesias
Me too.
He made an insane play the other night that made my toes curl.
That barehanded flip?
yea
Yeah, I got wet seeing that too.
Re: MLB
Posted: Thu August 22, 2013 3:02 am
by MadTIGERmaN
cutuphalfdead wrote:numbers wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:numbers wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:@SkitchP wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:But my point is, we're not winning the World Series with those piece of shit arms that Peavy prevents coming up, but we're not winning it with Peavy either.
and my point is I

Jose Iglesias
Me too.
He made an insane play the other night that made my toes curl.
That barehanded flip?
yea
Yeah, I got wet seeing that too.
there is a lot, of good young talent, all around MLB right now...
its a good time to be a fan of the sport in general... as long as all these kids keep their noses clean.
that play Iglesias made was pretty pretty pretttttttttttttttttttty good as Larry David would say
Re: MLB
Posted: Fri August 23, 2013 3:29 am
by Harry Lime
"During the latter part of the 2011 season, I was dealing with a nagging injury and I turned to products for a short period of time that I shouldn't have used."
Fuck em, Brauny. No need to apologize.
Re: MLB
Posted: Fri August 23, 2013 11:25 am
by Peeps
Harry Lime wrote:"During the latter part of the 2011 season, I was dealing with a nagging injury and I turned to products for a short period of time that I shouldn't have used."
Fuck em, Brauny. No need to apologize.
i agree no need to apologize at all, except the guy you slandered as being an anti-semite or the pro QB who very publicly went to bat for you and looks like a fool for doing so and for just generally looking like a completely self-absorbed asshat. no need to apologize except for that.
Re: MLB
Posted: Fri August 23, 2013 1:16 pm
by philpritchard
I have a really hard time buying the "I was injured and desperate and just wanted to get back on the field to help my team" line that everyone uses when they get caught.
Re: MLB
Posted: Fri August 23, 2013 1:45 pm
by Electromatic
Why appologize if you're going to continue lying?
This guy is full of shit to his core. He cheated in college, he cheated to make the majors, everything about him is bullshit, and then he waits 2 months for the bright lights to die down before he releases a written statement in which he doesn't even remotely come clean? What a pussy. Who starts taking steroids in July of an MVP season Ryan?
NO FUCKING BODY, go learn to bag groceries asshole. At least Ken Caminiti admitted it.
Geez Jose Canseco has more integrity.
If it was truely just to get over an injury, why not come clean when you tested positive ORIGINALLY???????
Re: MLB
Posted: Fri August 23, 2013 1:48 pm
by EJ
philpritchard wrote:I have a really hard time buying the "I was injured and desperate and just wanted to get back on the field to help my team" line that everyone uses when they get caught.
Yep, standard response. He should've just kept quiet. No player will ever admit that the PED's improved their on-field performance. They'll always resort to the recovery from injury nonsense, especially if one just won the MVP.
Re: MLB
Posted: Fri August 23, 2013 2:07 pm
by philpritchard
The worst part about that excuse, to me, is that players tend to use it to gain sympathy. They never just say "I made a mistake". It's always "I made a mistake, but I was injured and my teammates needed me out there to help them push for the playoffs and the fans paid good money to see me play and all the pressure got to me and I made a bad decision that I regretnow that I've been caught and given a long suspension during which I won't get paid."
Re: MLB
Posted: Fri August 23, 2013 2:24 pm
by Alex
i always felt that a mild strain of anti-semitism would fit well within the frontiersman shtick of Harry Lime, which is why this unconditional love for Ryan Braun is so surprising
Re: MLB
Posted: Fri August 23, 2013 2:41 pm
by Harry Lime
philpritchard wrote:I have a really hard time buying the "I was injured and desperate and just wanted to get back on the field to help my team" line that everyone uses when they get caught.
Yeah but you see it's the truth. I remember the end of the 2011 regular season and we were pushing for the top of the division and he was fighting through an injury. Embarrassing his supporters doesn't help, but the act itself? Big deal.
Alex wrote:i always felt that a mild strain of anti-semitism would fit well within the frontiersman shtick of Harry Lime, which is why this unconditional love for Ryan Braun is so surprising
As long as it's in the realm of sports it's okay.
Re: MLB
Posted: Fri August 23, 2013 2:56 pm
by philpritchard
Harry Lime wrote:Yeah but you see it's the truth. I remember the end of the 2011 regular season and we were pushing for the top of the division and he was fighting through an injury. Embarrassing his supporters doesn't help, but the act itself? Big deal.
Other than "Because I want to believe him," what possible reason could anyone have to believe that he only used PEDs to recover from an injury? There is literally no reason to believe that's true.
Re: MLB
Posted: Fri August 23, 2013 3:11 pm
by EJ
philpritchard wrote:Harry Lime wrote:Yeah but you see it's the truth. I remember the end of the 2011 regular season and we were pushing for the top of the division and he was fighting through an injury. Embarrassing his supporters doesn't help, but the act itself? Big deal.
Other than "Because I want to believe him," what possible reason could anyone have to believe that he only used PEDs to recover from an injury? There is literally no reason to believe that's true.
"Because I want to believe him," is the only reason.
Re: MLB
Posted: Fri August 23, 2013 3:17 pm
by Alex
faith is that bubblegum echo to which our ears are perfectly attuned
Re: MLB
Posted: Sat August 24, 2013 11:20 pm
by MadTIGERmaN
philpritchard wrote:I have a really hard time buying the "I was injured and desperate and just wanted to get back on the field to help my team" line that everyone uses when they get caught.
how bout the fact that he says he turned to these "products" (note he never once mentiones PEDs / HGH (which might be because of legal issues but either way he glossies over the terms)) for a short period of time...
well its been documented he first shows up on the records for the Bio-lab in July, he got nabbed in October? thats 3 months later... 12 weeks... Thats not a short period of time Ryan, thats half the bloody season...
I just googled calf strain recovery time...
a grade 1 - 7-10 days
grade 2 - 4-6 weeks
grade 3 - 3 months (which is what his "short period of time" was)
if he took the juice to get over a grade 1? palease... miss a week and rehab like everyone else... if it was a grade 1 that you took a short cut on? well then you were most likely doing it long before this as a grade 1 is pretty easy to recover from or a fucking moron, not to mention, youd have been recovered within a week or so, and not still been using the "products" come October. Judging from your "busted" levels... you were definitely still using.
a grade 2? 4 to 6 weeks? if his calf strain was that bad, when it was first diagnosed he would have been DL'd period, end of story, sure then he might have used something to come back faster... he missed all of 12 games for the entire season? if had a grade 2 / instantly rubbed on the magic cream and stayed in the lineup? the Brewers training staff either new what was going on, or they are fucking morons.
a grade 3? see grade 2...
He needs to sit down with Costas, Greinke, Kirk Gibson (as he wants to ask him some questions and Gibby aint gonna take shit) lets toss the Hammer Hank Aaron up there and maybe one other legend... let him answer questions, no scripts, no lawyers... man up Ryan. You let Lucroy, ARogers, and so many others talk defending you, how bout you man up and start talking for yourself.
Re: MLB
Posted: Sat August 24, 2013 11:48 pm
by @SkitchP
I know wins are not a well respected stat.. but
19-1

Re: MLB
Posted: Sun August 25, 2013 12:02 am
by numbers
@SkitchP wrote:I know wins are not a well respected stat.. but
19-1

I respect wins, the sabermetrics people have shit on the stat so much that it is now underrated.
Re: MLB
Posted: Sun August 25, 2013 12:31 am
by Norah
Pfft, that just means he gets run support.
Re: MLB
Posted: Sun August 25, 2013 12:32 am
by Norah
Kidding, I don't completely discount wins as a stat.
Re: MLB
Posted: Sun August 25, 2013 4:14 am
by philpritchard
numbers wrote:@SkitchP wrote:I know wins are not a well respected stat.. but
19-1

I respect wins, the sabermetrics people have shit on the stat so much that it is now underrated.
Wins are just like the triple crown. They're outstanding accomplishments and they should be celebrated. I don't think even sabermetric people would dispute that. They just don't mean what a lot of people think they mean.
19-1 is awesome.