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Anders wrote:

stip wrote:

Anders wrote:

stip wrote:

Anders wrote:

stip wrote:

Anders wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:This is a good read but especially for anyone having trouble with it.

https://t.co/SbTDq3ks88?amp=1

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While he skips over all the other problems with the movie, which are there regardless, I can’t agree that all the Skywalkers dying out is a satisfying end to the saga. That somehow all the Sith and Jedi dying brings balance to the universe. For me it’s a betrayal of the OT, and hurts the saga more than anything.

i spoilered this anders.


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there are still two skywalkers alive. leia (though they cant carry that through) and ben solo - in fact a skywalker now rules the galaxy.

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But in the article he says they must end, and Ben must die. And of course Ben must die, he is the villain.

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i wouldnt conflate skywalkers and jedi

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No, they are clearly separate. But the nine episode saga is about the Skywalkers.

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right, which will conclude with the end of the Anakin - Luke - Ben skywalker arc.

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Which is a terrible ending to a saga.

Anders wrote:

stip wrote:

Anders wrote:

stip wrote:

Anders wrote:

stip wrote:

Anders wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:This is a good read but especially for anyone having trouble with it.

https://t.co/SbTDq3ks88?amp=1

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While he skips over all the other problems with the movie, which are there regardless, I can’t agree that all the Skywalkers dying out is a satisfying end to the saga. That somehow all the Sith and Jedi dying brings balance to the universe. For me it’s a betrayal of the OT, and hurts the saga more than anything.

i spoilered this anders.


also

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there are still two skywalkers alive. leia (though they cant carry that through) and ben solo - in fact a skywalker now rules the galaxy.

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But in the article he says they must end, and Ben must die. And of course Ben must die, he is the villain.

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i wouldnt conflate skywalkers and jedi

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No, they are clearly separate. But the nine episode saga is about the Skywalkers.

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right, which will conclude with the end of the Anakin - Luke - Ben skywalker arc.

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Which is a terrible ending to a saga.

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while I don't like the leia space walk bit, I wonder if one reason that is there is to remind the audience that the skywalker connection can be just as potent running through Leia as through Luke

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while I don't like the leia space walk bit, I wonder if one reason that is there is to remind the audience that the skywalker connection can be just as potent running through Leia as through Luke

stip wrote:is that new canon or old canon?

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the Leia space-walking scene was beautiful and poignant. It didn't feel out-of-place to me at all. I'm struggling to understand how someone could rationally take issue with it

LoathedVermin72 wrote:Welp I guess I’m about to see this right now actually

VinylGuy wrote:Im not sure how a new trilogy without these characters is going to function.

VinylGuy wrote:Im not sure how a new trilogy without these characters is going to function.

VinylGuy wrote:Im not sure how a new trilogy without these characters is going to function.

stip wrote:

VinylGuy wrote:Im not sure how a new trilogy without these characters is going to function.

I think that's why they are commissioning that new trilogy from Johnson. So if they come back to this story it would be years later and whatever happens next.

stip wrote:in coach’s post, for instance

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useless poe is necessary - he fails and fails again because he is learning what leadership requires (not heroism) at this moment in history. Johnson takes a hot shot pilot and blows up his ship after the opening scene so he has to struggle with being powerless. He fails and in the end learns from his failure (which yoda also teaches luke). its great stuff

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To clarify, I just don't care for the character, or many of the new ones. It's not about his success/failures or anything like that. The new characters I like most are Rey and Finn.