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Re: The Running Thread

Posted: Sun December 26, 2021 6:11 am
by Bammer
Explain the whole rotation thing to me. Why switch your shoes from one run to the next, and cycle through again (and again…). Why not find good ones and use them regularly.

Do people do this with basketball, tennis, etc?

I’m talking average joe athletes.

Re: The Running Thread

Posted: Sun December 26, 2021 6:48 am
by washing machine
Well for starters, if I know I'm hitting a trail, I'll put on different shoes than I would wear if I was running on roads. More grip, sturdier upper. That's one shoe in rotation.

Then on days where I want to do a speedy run, like a tempo or a sprinting-type workout, I'll wear these very lightweight shoes with a low stack. I wouldn't want to race a half marathon in these because they wouldn't be comfortable, but they're great for speedwork. That's two.

Then I have my daily trainers. The ones I put the most miles on. They're comfortable and can do short and long distances. Work horses. However, due to high mileage, I don't want to race in these. That's three.

Which brings us to the race day shoe. This one is just for long runs on the weekend to get used to the feel on long distances. Keeping the mileage relatively low before race day, I can work out any surprises in those long runs but also keep the miles low in the spirit of freshness for race day. Haven't decided between these two yet so I'm going to alternate week to week in the rotation. Four and five.

There's more to it, like switching between 0 drops and 4mm drops with a few of those shoes to distribute stress in different areas (like what lenny was alluding to I think). Also, I wouldn't need to decide between those last two shoes for the half marathon if I could find another pair of those daily trainers I posted in my size and a colorway I like. They're discontinued, or else I'd have duplicates in rotation. I love the Kinvara 11s so much.

Re: The Running Thread

Posted: Sun December 26, 2021 2:36 pm
by Bammer
That all makes sense, especially road vs. trail. I could see having multiple pairs for that reason, mainly to keep the road ones from getting dirty with trail mud.

I can see how the racing part enters the equation. I don’t race.

:fistbump:

Re: The Running Thread

Posted: Sun December 26, 2021 2:48 pm
by washing machine
I don't either, but I plan to start.

Re: The Running Thread

Posted: Sun December 26, 2021 2:55 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
Those Kinvaras look so good.

Re: The Running Thread

Posted: Sun December 26, 2021 3:00 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
I'm not going to do any long runs anytime soon, at least not on a consistent basis, so I think the only thing I should consider is getting another pair for speedwork if I start doing intervals.

Re: The Running Thread

Posted: Sun December 26, 2021 3:10 pm
by Bammer
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:Those Kinvaras look so good.
And you know what they say about running shoes…

Re: The Running Thread

Posted: Sun December 26, 2021 3:37 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
Bammer wrote:
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:Those Kinvaras look so good.
And you know what they say about running shoes…
If they look good buy them?

Re: The Running Thread

Posted: Sun December 26, 2021 4:26 pm
by Bammer
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:
Bammer wrote:
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:Those Kinvaras look so good.
And you know what they say about running shoes…
If they look good buy them?
I’m kinda done with you for a while, Len.

Re: The Running Thread

Posted: Sun December 26, 2021 4:36 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
Bammer wrote:
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:
Bammer wrote:
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:Those Kinvaras look so good.
And you know what they say about running shoes…
If they look good buy them?
I’m kinda done with you for a while, Len.
I have no clue what you’re talking about. Does this have anything to do with thodoks?

Re: The Running Thread

Posted: Mon December 27, 2021 4:54 am
by Bammer
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:
Bammer wrote:
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:
Bammer wrote:
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:Those Kinvaras look so good.
And you know what they say about running shoes…
If they look good buy them?
I’m kinda done with you for a while, Len.
I have no clue what you’re talking about. Does this have anything to do with thodoks?
I’d rather not get into it.

Anyway, what they say is if running shoes look good they’re not good for running.

Re: The Running Thread

Posted: Tue December 28, 2021 12:11 am
by lennytheweedwhacker
Bammer wrote:
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:
Bammer wrote:
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:
Bammer wrote:
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:Those Kinvaras look so good.
And you know what they say about running shoes…
If they look good buy them?
I’m kinda done with you for a while, Len.
I have no clue what you’re talking about. Does this have anything to do with thodoks?
I’d rather not get into it.

Anyway, what they say is if running shoes look good they’re not good for running.
I don’t know, man. There are a lot of baller looking running shoes that experts seem to enjoy.

Re: The Running Thread

Posted: Tue December 28, 2021 12:12 am
by lennytheweedwhacker
3 miles in 28:10. Weather may suck the next few days so may try to go out again tomorrow for an easy three.

Re: The Running Thread

Posted: Tue December 28, 2021 10:56 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:3 miles in 28:10. Weather may suck the next few days so may try to go out again tomorrow for an easy three.
3 miles in 29:10. Went pretty easy the first two miles, but turned it up a bit on the third. I’m sure I could have had a better pace if I pushed harder, but it felt good so I’m content.

Re: The Running Thread

Posted: Tue December 28, 2021 11:00 pm
by washing machine
Tell us about the route. The weather.

Re: The Running Thread

Posted: Tue December 28, 2021 11:45 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
washing machine wrote:Tell us about the route. The weather.
Correction above: Today was 29:12. I apologize for the mistake.

I just did 1.5 on the Greenway and turned around. I love going there. It has a few running streams, is open in parts and well shaded in others. There's a disc golf course nearby and a few of the holes are near the route I go.

The weather was overcast and wet, but around 70 degrees. I didn't rain while I was out there. Felt pretty nice overall though with a slight breeze.

Re: The Running Thread

Posted: Tue December 28, 2021 11:46 pm
by washing machine
That's pretty much exactly where and how I like to run. Maybe wish it was a little cooler. Who funds your Greenway? are there any new segments or renovations in the works?

Re: The Running Thread

Posted: Tue December 28, 2021 11:52 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
washing machine wrote:That's pretty much exactly where and how I like to run. Maybe wish it was a little cooler. Who funds your Greenway? are there any new segments or renovations in the works?
My body has been running kinda cold this week despite the warmer weather, but otherwise yeah I'd like it cooler.

I'm not sure since they are in a few different cities in the county. And one in the county due west. For the one I typically go to, there is an offshoot that's around 3/4th's of a mile. I do like going on it, but it's been quite awhile. There are more of the disc golf holes that run up toward it so sometimes you have to be on the lookout for discs. Supposedly that route is supposed to eventually lead to another shorter one somewhat nearby. I've never been to it since it's a really short one and I much prefer longer ones, but when/if they're connected I think it's going to be something like an 8-10 mile stretch.

Re: The Running Thread

Posted: Tue December 28, 2021 11:54 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
I tried out the one across town a few weeks ago, and while I liked the part of the route I went on well enough, it crosses a road and I'm not a fan of that. There's another near me that does the same, but it appears to be a little easier to cross. I need to hit it up again.

Re: The Running Thread

Posted: Tue December 28, 2021 11:59 pm
by washing machine
These all sound like very nice routes.