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Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread
Posted: Sat April 13, 2024 8:05 pm
by Ms Harmless
Mike wrote:stip wrote:digster wrote:stip wrote:digster wrote:I think something like Dark Matter, if they approached it how they recorded something like Riot Act, it would benefit tremendously; you'd actually get the sound of what I presume the band wants to evoke, of the aggressiveness in the playing and the feeling of a live band coming close to careening off the tracks. As it is, these songs sound more neutered than they should, I think they'd benefit from some actual sharp edges.
Nothing about Riot Act screams sharp edges or aggression to me. That was the whole critique of the album at the time, and I think it holds up as critique. It's just that after S/T came out we stopped looking for those moments in Riot Act and understood it wasn't what the album was trying to evoke.
Yeah, those things aren't there because that's how the band (and particularly Eddie) were approaching the songwriting and particularly the performances on that album, and the production evocatively (and accurately) caught what the band was doing. Kasper caught precisely what the band was doing and how they sounded as good as they ever have been. If they approached these songs with that same intensity and tried to capture that mood as well as they captured the mood they caught with Riot Act, I'd think they'd sound a whole lot better.
Ah, gotcha. I see what you mean. It'll be interesting to see how much different the Evans mix sounds. But I don't know. For Dark Matter in particular I think there is a relentless intensity to it. It's overwhelming, but that's kind of the point. It may not work for every track, but this is one where I think it does, quite well. Of course a different approach might have sounded even better.
I think Vs. like production would be perfect. Animal/Go/Blood have that intense sound that would fit Dark Matter/Running perfectly and the mid tempo stuff would also work perfectly with a sound like Daughter/Elderly Woman
yup, looks like that's the one!
Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread
Posted: Sat April 13, 2024 8:07 pm
by dad
Mike wrote:And no I found no leak. I think mister coolpants tallboy Jorge is being… trecherous…
I bet he does wear cool pants.
Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread
Posted: Sat April 13, 2024 8:18 pm
by tommy
dad wrote:Mike wrote:And no I found no leak. I think mister coolpants tallboy Jorge is being… trecherous…
I bet he does wear cool pants.
I bet he wears shorts a lot
Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread
Posted: Sat April 13, 2024 8:21 pm
by tragabigzanda
Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread
Posted: Sat April 13, 2024 8:26 pm
by Jorge
I do not wear shorts often and there are people on reddit talking about having a leak. Blame them not me
Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread
Posted: Sat April 13, 2024 8:27 pm
by Mike
hmmm
Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread
Posted: Sat April 13, 2024 8:28 pm
by Ms Harmless
Jorge wrote:I do not wear shorts often and there are people on reddit talking about having a leak. Blame them not me
whatever happens, make no mistake, you shall be blamed
Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread
Posted: Sat April 13, 2024 8:28 pm
by tommy
Mike wrote:hmmm
Yeah, I don't buy it. I know I'd be wearing shorts if I lived in such a hot climate.
Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread
Posted: Sat April 13, 2024 8:29 pm
by Jorge
It is 60 degrees and rainy today
Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread
Posted: Sat April 13, 2024 8:30 pm
by Mike
i dont understand fahrenheit so that means nothing to me
Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread
Posted: Sat April 13, 2024 8:31 pm
by tommy
Mike wrote:i dont understand fahrenheit so that means nothing to me
It's really hot. Shorts weather.
Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread
Posted: Sat April 13, 2024 8:31 pm
by dad
did the rumor start here?

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread
Posted: Sat April 13, 2024 8:31 pm
by Mike
cargo shorts so he can carry all his cool items?
Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread
Posted: Sat April 13, 2024 8:33 pm
by tommy
Mike wrote:cargo shorts so he can carry all his cool items?
He almost certainly wears a fanny pack.
Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread
Posted: Sat April 13, 2024 8:34 pm
by stip
Mike wrote:stip wrote:digster wrote:stip wrote:digster wrote:I think something like Dark Matter, if they approached it how they recorded something like Riot Act, it would benefit tremendously; you'd actually get the sound of what I presume the band wants to evoke, of the aggressiveness in the playing and the feeling of a live band coming close to careening off the tracks. As it is, these songs sound more neutered than they should, I think they'd benefit from some actual sharp edges.
Nothing about Riot Act screams sharp edges or aggression to me. That was the whole critique of the album at the time, and I think it holds up as critique. It's just that after S/T came out we stopped looking for those moments in Riot Act and understood it wasn't what the album was trying to evoke.
Yeah, those things aren't there because that's how the band (and particularly Eddie) were approaching the songwriting and particularly the performances on that album, and the production evocatively (and accurately) caught what the band was doing. Kasper caught precisely what the band was doing and how they sounded as good as they ever have been. If they approached these songs with that same intensity and tried to capture that mood as well as they captured the mood they caught with Riot Act, I'd think they'd sound a whole lot better.
Ah, gotcha. I see what you mean. It'll be interesting to see how much different the Evans mix sounds. But I don't know. For Dark Matter in particular I think there is a relentless intensity to it. It's overwhelming, but that's kind of the point. It may not work for every track, but this is one where I think it does, quite well. Of course a different approach might have sounded even better.
I think Vs. like production would be perfect. Animal/Go/Blood have that intense sound that would fit Dark Matter/Running perfectly and the mid tempo stuff would also work perfectly with a sound like Daughter/Elderly Woman
to be fair, almost any record would be improved if it sounded like Vs. But probably especially Dark Matter
Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread
Posted: Sat April 13, 2024 8:35 pm
by stip
tommy wrote:Mike wrote:cargo shorts so he can carry all his cool items?
He almost certainly wears a fanny pack.
do you think he keeps a leaked copy of Dark Matter in it?
Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread
Posted: Sat April 13, 2024 8:37 pm
by tommy
stip wrote:tommy wrote:Mike wrote:cargo shorts so he can carry all his cool items?
He almost certainly wears a fanny pack.
do you think he keeps a leaked copy of Dark Matter in it?
Definitely. Also a pack of juicy fruit gum, chapstick and nail clippers.
Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread
Posted: Sat April 13, 2024 8:38 pm
by Monkey_Driven
Mike wrote:i dont understand fahrenheit so that means nothing to me
Minus 30 and halve it. That's roughly the equivalent in Celsius.
Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread
Posted: Sat April 13, 2024 8:44 pm
by Fattie_Vedder
You guys, I just leaked from my butt and it sounded like “daaaarrrkk maaaatterrrrr”
Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread
Posted: Sat April 13, 2024 8:49 pm
by Clem Halibut
I just leaked...it was something speciiiiaaaal