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Re: MLB

Posted: Wed November 04, 2015 2:53 pm
by numbers
I think he is, and he's a good fit for that team.

Re: MLB

Posted: Wed November 04, 2015 2:57 pm
by philpritchard
numbers wrote:I think he is, and he's a good fit for that team.
You shouldn't believe that based on his win-loss record, is all I'm saying.

Re: MLB

Posted: Wed November 04, 2015 5:04 pm
by verb_to_trust
Dustys best player on the Nats is white. Thats gonna be awkward.

Re: MLB

Posted: Wed November 04, 2015 6:04 pm
by Chris_H_2
guys, a ned yost-managed team won the world series this year. even better: matt williams was the nl manager of the year last year.

Re: MLB

Posted: Wed November 04, 2015 7:34 pm
by Monkey_Driven
Chris_H_2 wrote:guys, a ned yost-managed team won the world series this year. even better: matt williams was the nl manager of the year last year.
Kind of makes you question your life, doesn't it?

Re: MLB

Posted: Wed November 04, 2015 8:20 pm
by numbers
I just don't get why people act like Dusty Baker is a joke. The guy has had good runs with three different team.

Re: MLB

Posted: Wed November 04, 2015 9:09 pm
by Monkey_Driven
numbers wrote:I just don't get why people act like Dusty Baker is a joke. The guy has had good runs with three different team.
Because his name is Dusty and he does not wear a cowboy hat.

Re: MLB

Posted: Thu November 05, 2015 2:20 am
by verb_to_trust
No its because he sucks. Find a reds giants or cubs fan who thinks this is a good hire. They dont exist.

Re: MLB

Posted: Thu November 05, 2015 3:18 am
by MadTIGERmaN
Monkey_Driven wrote:
numbers wrote:I just don't get why people act like Dusty Baker is a joke. The guy has had good runs with three different team.
Because his name is Dusty and he does not wear a cowboy hat.
yet he wears wrist-bands in the dugout as a manager?

Re: MLB

Posted: Thu November 05, 2015 3:28 am
by Kaius
Team wristbands.

Re: MLB

Posted: Thu November 05, 2015 4:41 am
by Monkey_Driven
Kaius wrote:Team wristbands.
He has sweaty forearms.

Re: MLB

Posted: Thu November 05, 2015 2:13 pm
by philpritchard
numbers wrote:I just don't get why people act like Dusty Baker is a joke. The guy has had good runs with three different team.
The thing we can't know about a manager is how they are as a leader and managing personalities and all that intangible stuff. So it's very possible that Baker is really good at, for example, getting the most out of his players and keeping them loose and focused. Maybe... at this point, anyway, it's impossible to say.

What we do know about Baker is that he's a terrible tactical manager who has a reputation for overworking pitchers.

Re: MLB

Posted: Thu November 05, 2015 3:21 pm
by numbers
philpritchard wrote:
numbers wrote:I just don't get why people act like Dusty Baker is a joke. The guy has had good runs with three different team.
The thing we can't know about a manager is how they are as a leader and managing personalities and all that intangible stuff. So it's very possible that Baker is really good at, for example, getting the most out of his players and keeping them loose and focused. Maybe... at this point, anyway, it's impossible to say.

What we do know about Baker is that he's a terrible tactical manager who has a reputation for overworking pitchers.
I just feel like the guy has a track record of success. I dont watch enough of his games to know his tactical skills well(I am aware of the complaints of Cubs fans about overworking pitchers,) but the guy has won in three different places, in different eras. He has to be doing something right.

Re: MLB

Posted: Thu November 05, 2015 4:50 pm
by 4/5
I remember that Don Mattingly was mocked pretty strongly early on with the Dodgers, did he ever improve or did the Marlins just hire another terrible manager?

Re: MLB

Posted: Thu November 05, 2015 5:08 pm
by @SkitchP
philpritchard wrote:
numbers wrote:I just don't get why people act like Dusty Baker is a joke. The guy has had good runs with three different team.
The thing we can't know about a manager is how they are as a leader and managing personalities and all that intangible stuff. So it's very possible that Baker is really good at, for example, getting the most out of his players and keeping them loose and focused. Maybe... at this point, anyway, it's impossible to say.

What we do know about Baker is that he's a terrible tactical manager who has a reputation for overworking pitchers.

and that's the thing. A guy like Dusty Baker on a team of ready made veterans could be very successful, and given the money invested in that team, A clubhouse leader like he (appears to be at least) is may be a better fit for a team like that. Much like Jim Leyland in Detroit.

Re: MLB

Posted: Thu November 05, 2015 5:15 pm
by Norah
@SkitchP wrote:
philpritchard wrote:
numbers wrote:I just don't get why people act like Dusty Baker is a joke. The guy has had good runs with three different team.
The thing we can't know about a manager is how they are as a leader and managing personalities and all that intangible stuff. So it's very possible that Baker is really good at, for example, getting the most out of his players and keeping them loose and focused. Maybe... at this point, anyway, it's impossible to say.

What we do know about Baker is that he's a terrible tactical manager who has a reputation for overworking pitchers.

and that's the thing. A guy like Dusty Baker on a team of ready made veterans could be very successful, and given the money invested in that team, A clubhouse leader like he (appears to be at least) is may be a better fit for a team like that. Much like Jim Leyland in Detroit.
I thought I read something from a Cubs writer somewhere that said he wasn't that great of a clubhouse guy.

Re: MLB

Posted: Thu November 05, 2015 5:48 pm
by verb_to_trust
He isnt

Re: MLB

Posted: Thu November 05, 2015 5:51 pm
by @SkitchP
cutuphalfdead wrote:
@SkitchP wrote:
philpritchard wrote:
numbers wrote:I just don't get why people act like Dusty Baker is a joke. The guy has had good runs with three different team.
The thing we can't know about a manager is how they are as a leader and managing personalities and all that intangible stuff. So it's very possible that Baker is really good at, for example, getting the most out of his players and keeping them loose and focused. Maybe... at this point, anyway, it's impossible to say.

What we do know about Baker is that he's a terrible tactical manager who has a reputation for overworking pitchers.

and that's the thing. A guy like Dusty Baker on a team of ready made veterans could be very successful, and given the money invested in that team, A clubhouse leader like he (appears to be at least) is may be a better fit for a team like that. Much like Jim Leyland in Detroit.
I thought I read something from a Cubs writer somewhere that said he wasn't that great of a clubhouse guy.

I bet he wears out his welcome quick, but he has had success to a degree.

Re: MLB

Posted: Thu November 05, 2015 5:53 pm
by Norah
@SkitchP wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
@SkitchP wrote:
philpritchard wrote:
numbers wrote:I just don't get why people act like Dusty Baker is a joke. The guy has had good runs with three different team.
The thing we can't know about a manager is how they are as a leader and managing personalities and all that intangible stuff. So it's very possible that Baker is really good at, for example, getting the most out of his players and keeping them loose and focused. Maybe... at this point, anyway, it's impossible to say.

What we do know about Baker is that he's a terrible tactical manager who has a reputation for overworking pitchers.

and that's the thing. A guy like Dusty Baker on a team of ready made veterans could be very successful, and given the money invested in that team, A clubhouse leader like he (appears to be at least) is may be a better fit for a team like that. Much like Jim Leyland in Detroit.
I thought I read something from a Cubs writer somewhere that said he wasn't that great of a clubhouse guy.

I bet he wears out his welcome quick, but he has had success to a degree.
Matt Williams had success to a degree.

Re: MLB

Posted: Thu November 05, 2015 6:00 pm
by numbers
cutuphalfdead wrote:
@SkitchP wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
@SkitchP wrote:
philpritchard wrote:
numbers wrote:I just don't get why people act like Dusty Baker is a joke. The guy has had good runs with three different team.
The thing we can't know about a manager is how they are as a leader and managing personalities and all that intangible stuff. So it's very possible that Baker is really good at, for example, getting the most out of his players and keeping them loose and focused. Maybe... at this point, anyway, it's impossible to say.

What we do know about Baker is that he's a terrible tactical manager who has a reputation for overworking pitchers.

and that's the thing. A guy like Dusty Baker on a team of ready made veterans could be very successful, and given the money invested in that team, A clubhouse leader like he (appears to be at least) is may be a better fit for a team like that. Much like Jim Leyland in Detroit.
I thought I read something from a Cubs writer somewhere that said he wasn't that great of a clubhouse guy.

I bet he wears out his welcome quick, but he has had success to a degree.
Matt Williams had success to a degree.
Those two are not comparable. Williams managed one team for two years and never won a playoff series. Baker has taken three different teams to the playoffs, and went to the LCS with two of them and the WS with one.