Red Mosquito

I feel like this is my fault. I didn't engage trag this morning on the zoo thing, so all he had left was to do this. I'm sorry, everyone.

Just never confide in Trag on anything. Ever.

seriously

Oh I'm not even gonna read the last five pages.

I also skipped them

i skimmed them

I spoke with my wife about this and she thinks Gwyneth is the devil

Rangi Guy wrote:I spoke with my wife about this and she thinks Gwyneth is the devil

tell her i said

I don't know about devil, but she is a lunatic.

BurtReynolds wrote:Oh I'm not even gonna read the last five pages.

Great choice. What a jumbled mess of an argument trag was trying to push.

cutuphalfdead wrote:Your argument would hold a lot more water if we didn't live in a society that consistently punishes women who come forward about sexual assault. Creating a world that punishes them for coming forward, and then putting the moral responsibility on their shoulders to do so anyway, is absurd.

solid end to trags argument, but I doubt he's finished yet.

tragabigzanda wrote:You guys are absurd. Sometimes being a good person means making a difficult choice, like the one between protecting your friend's feelings and protecting other women from rape. And I'm not even saying that HAS to be the path taken; just that it may hold moral merit. Your unwillingness to see that, and to equate any sort of questioning with victim blaming makes you look like one-dimensional caricatures of the liberal/feminist men you strive to be.

And I would argue that your inability to see that we aren't doing that by any stretch makes you look like a tone def, ignorant, misogynist at best.

There absolutely should be a conversation about how victims of abuse should or should not speak and about processing their abuse and the best way for us to support and help those people. That is a valuable conversation. I haven't seen anyone here argue otherwise.

Rangi Guy wrote:I spoke with my wife about this and she thinks Gwyneth is the devil

She would look good in a red dress.

cutuphalfdead wrote:Your argument would hold a lot more water if we didn't live in a society that consistently punishes women who come forward about sexual assault. Creating a world that punishes them for coming forward, and then putting the moral responsibility on their shoulders to do so anyway, is absurd.

Punishing and/or discrediting/demonizing them, yes. Well said.

A lynch mob is still a lynch mob, even when its target is guilty.

Is this seriously happening? Do they really think any vets will answer?

Presidential Executive Order Amending Executive Order 13223

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-of ... rder-13223

Steve Bannon is speaking.

McParadigm wrote:Steve Bannon is speaking.

He could make a fortune as the "before" on a proactiv infomercial.

Trump declassifying JFK assassination report.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/tr ... 4a00d93266

He's played a bloody blinder getting everyone to forget about his tax returns.