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Re: Superblood Wolfmoon

Posted: Tue February 18, 2020 3:54 pm
by Ms Harmless
Strat wrote:im tired of "that type of song" too from them. However, i dont feel this song is actually as simple and lazy as others feel it is.

Re: Superblood Wolfmoon

Posted: Tue February 18, 2020 3:55 pm
by Strat
tree_ wrote:Wow, Strat.. do you even play guitar? Power chords, simple 4/4 drum beat... all super generic sound all around ...

man... Ed's voice is just so bad... is anyone in their circle listening to this? They really need to say something to Ed... wtf is he doing.. GRATING AF
You seem quite angry about this song, tree.

Re: Superblood Wolfmoon

Posted: Tue February 18, 2020 3:56 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
tree_ wrote:Wow, Strat.. do you even play guitar?
Dude, I don't like this song either, but this post is just dumb and exposes just how much of a dumb troll you are.

Re: Superblood Wolfmoon

Posted: Tue February 18, 2020 3:57 pm
by Ms Harmless
tree_ wrote:Wow, Strat.. do you even play guitar? Power chords, simple 4/4 drum beat... all super generic sound all around ...

man... Ed's voice is just so bad... is anyone in their circle listening to this? They really need to say something to Ed... wtf is he doing.. GRATING AF
who gives a fuck which of us plays guitar? this is the "do you even lift bro?" of musicians

Re: Superblood Wolfmoon

Posted: Tue February 18, 2020 3:57 pm
by tree_
Strat wrote:
tree_ wrote:Wow, Strat.. do you even play guitar? Power chords, simple 4/4 drum beat... all super generic sound all around ...

man... Ed's voice is just so bad... is anyone in their circle listening to this? They really need to say something to Ed... wtf is he doing.. GRATING AF
You seem quite angry about this song, tree.
I assure you I'm not angry. I just can't believe you would call this song at all complex if you know anything about chord structure or guitar playing.

Re: Superblood Wolfmoon

Posted: Tue February 18, 2020 3:59 pm
by Ms Harmless
DeeDee wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:
DeeDee wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:
DeeDee wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:"they're a live band" in the sense that they play instruments and tour, like... a band
They're a live band in the sense that they've put out one (bad) record in the last 10 years but have continued to tour.

And oh god are they good live.
their album to tour ratio used to be much higher, so maybe they're a "live band" in the sense that they're old and less interested in innovating in the studio
Let's put it this way:

How many people will keep going to their concerts no matter how good/bad are their new records?

Sadly, they've become irrelevant studio wise.
so they're less a "live band" to me and more a... not very good one

PJ fans go to concerts almost entirely to absorb the magic of a "jamily" atmosphere now; I'm not saying that's a bad thing, I'm just saying that it's not the polished nature of the music that pulls them anymore, largely shown in the number of people who have seen them 50 times compared to any new fans they might be pulling in
Here (Spain, Europe), fans go to their concerts because they kick ass and are one of the best bands to ever do it, basically. There are no seats in the pit and people still have the time of their lifes when they go see them live, I guarantee you that. There are lots of jumping around, hugging and even moshing when the old hits come.

I haven't seen them in the States, so I can't talk about that 'jamily' thing, but I usually see people way quieter and used to see them. I guess the experiences are entirely different.
OK but jumping around and hugging have absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the band's musicianship

Re: Superblood Wolfmoon

Posted: Tue February 18, 2020 3:59 pm
by Strat
tree_ wrote:
Strat wrote:
tree_ wrote:Wow, Strat.. do you even play guitar? Power chords, simple 4/4 drum beat... all super generic sound all around ...

man... Ed's voice is just so bad... is anyone in their circle listening to this? They really need to say something to Ed... wtf is he doing.. GRATING AF
You seem quite angry about this song, tree.
I assure you I'm not angry. I just can't believe you would call this song at all complex if you know anything about chord structure or guitar playing.
I didnt say it was complex. I said its not as generic to me as others say it is. I dont care if a song is power chords. I dont care if its jazz chords. None of that fucking matters to me in the end. Nor does time signature. Complex does not equal good.

What I love about this song is eds performance in that there doesnt seem to be a natural and typical song structure. Verse, chorus, verse, chorus, bridge, outro.

This song is all over the place. 1/2 of the jamily hates that. I love it. To me, the structure and layout of the song (and energy) is far more interesting than anything off the last two records.

Re: Superblood Wolfmoon

Posted: Tue February 18, 2020 4:00 pm
by Ms Harmless
tree_ wrote:
Strat wrote:
tree_ wrote:Wow, Strat.. do you even play guitar? Power chords, simple 4/4 drum beat... all super generic sound all around ...

man... Ed's voice is just so bad... is anyone in their circle listening to this? They really need to say something to Ed... wtf is he doing.. GRATING AF
You seem quite angry about this song, tree.
I assure you I'm not angry. I just can't believe you would call this song at all complex if you know anything about chord structure or guitar playing.
cut it out

Re: Superblood Wolfmoon

Posted: Tue February 18, 2020 4:01 pm
by Ms Harmless
Strat wrote:
tree_ wrote:
Strat wrote:
tree_ wrote:Wow, Strat.. do you even play guitar? Power chords, simple 4/4 drum beat... all super generic sound all around ...

man... Ed's voice is just so bad... is anyone in their circle listening to this? They really need to say something to Ed... wtf is he doing.. GRATING AF
You seem quite angry about this song, tree.
I assure you I'm not angry. I just can't believe you would call this song at all complex if you know anything about chord structure or guitar playing.
I didnt say it was complex. I said its not as generic to me as others say it is. I dont care if a song is power chords. I dont care if its jazz chords. None of that fucking matters to me in the end. Nor does time signature. Complex does not equal good.

What I love about this song is eds performance in that there doesnt seem to be a natural and typical song structure. Verse, chorus, verse, chorus, bridge, outro.

This song is all over the place. 1/2 of the jamily hates that. I love it. To me, the structure and layout of the song (and energy) is far more interesting than anything off the last two records.

Re: Superblood Wolfmoon

Posted: Tue February 18, 2020 4:02 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
Hey strat, quick question for you:
Spoiler: show
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Re: Superblood Wolfmoon

Posted: Tue February 18, 2020 4:02 pm
by tree_
Ms Harmless wrote:
Strat wrote:
tree_ wrote:
Strat wrote:
tree_ wrote:Wow, Strat.. do you even play guitar? Power chords, simple 4/4 drum beat... all super generic sound all around ...

man... Ed's voice is just so bad... is anyone in their circle listening to this? They really need to say something to Ed... wtf is he doing.. GRATING AF
You seem quite angry about this song, tree.
I assure you I'm not angry. I just can't believe you would call this song at all complex if you know anything about chord structure or guitar playing.
I didnt say it was complex. I said its not as generic to me as others say it is. I dont care if a song is power chords. I dont care if its jazz chords. None of that fucking matters to me in the end. Nor does time signature. Complex does not equal good.

What I love about this song is eds performance in that there doesnt seem to be a natural and typical song structure. Verse, chorus, verse, chorus, bridge, outro.

This song is all over the place. 1/2 of the jamily hates that. I love it. To me, the structure and layout of the song (and energy) is far more interesting than anything off the last two records.
.. glad you're getting something positive out of it.

Re: Superblood Wolfmoon

Posted: Tue February 18, 2020 4:03 pm
by DeeDee
Ms Harmless wrote:
DeeDee wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:
DeeDee wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:
DeeDee wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:"they're a live band" in the sense that they play instruments and tour, like... a band
They're a live band in the sense that they've put out one (bad) record in the last 10 years but have continued to tour.

And oh god are they good live.
their album to tour ratio used to be much higher, so maybe they're a "live band" in the sense that they're old and less interested in innovating in the studio
Let's put it this way:

How many people will keep going to their concerts no matter how good/bad are their new records?

Sadly, they've become irrelevant studio wise.
so they're less a "live band" to me and more a... not very good one

PJ fans go to concerts almost entirely to absorb the magic of a "jamily" atmosphere now; I'm not saying that's a bad thing, I'm just saying that it's not the polished nature of the music that pulls them anymore, largely shown in the number of people who have seen them 50 times compared to any new fans they might be pulling in
Here (Spain, Europe), fans go to their concerts because they kick ass and are one of the best bands to ever do it, basically. There are no seats in the pit and people still have the time of their lifes when they go see them live, I guarantee you that. There are lots of jumping around, hugging and even moshing when the old hits come.

I haven't seen them in the States, so I can't talk about that 'jamily' thing, but I usually see people way quieter and used to see them. I guess the experiences are entirely different.
OK but jumping around and hugging have absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the band's musicianship
To me, they can make me feel more emotions than any other band in the entire world.

I seek that emotions when I listened to them, and I never find em when they take the fun-happy route. Not once.

Re: Superblood Wolfmoon

Posted: Tue February 18, 2020 4:03 pm
by liebzz
Ms Harmless wrote:
Strat wrote:
tree_ wrote:
Strat wrote:
tree_ wrote:Wow, Strat.. do you even play guitar? Power chords, simple 4/4 drum beat... all super generic sound all around ...

man... Ed's voice is just so bad... is anyone in their circle listening to this? They really need to say something to Ed... wtf is he doing.. GRATING AF
You seem quite angry about this song, tree.
I assure you I'm not angry. I just can't believe you would call this song at all complex if you know anything about chord structure or guitar playing.
I didnt say it was complex. I said its not as generic to me as others say it is. I dont care if a song is power chords. I dont care if its jazz chords. None of that fucking matters to me in the end. Nor does time signature. Complex does not equal good.

What I love about this song is eds performance in that there doesnt seem to be a natural and typical song structure. Verse, chorus, verse, chorus, bridge, outro.

This song is all over the place. 1/2 of the jamily hates that. I love it. To me, the structure and layout of the song (and energy) is far more interesting than anything off the last two records.
Yeah this.

Re: Superblood Wolfmoon

Posted: Tue February 18, 2020 4:03 pm
by Ms Harmless
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Hey strat, quick question for you:
Spoiler: show
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AL

Re: Superblood Wolfmoon

Posted: Tue February 18, 2020 4:04 pm
by tree_
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Hey strat, quick question for you:
Spoiler: show
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See, you dummie, you're not getting my humor. That was my joke. I know he plays guitar, if I didn't I wouldn't have said that. To me it's a bit shocking that a guitar player would call this chord progression anything but dirt simple. Strat cleared that up for me already so we can move on.

Re: Superblood Wolfmoon

Posted: Tue February 18, 2020 4:04 pm
by Parrhesia
I agree that complexity =/= good but this song just isn't any good in any way imo and Ed sounds horrible. Good for those who are enjoying it though.

Re: Superblood Wolfmoon

Posted: Tue February 18, 2020 4:05 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
tree_ wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Hey strat, quick question for you:
Spoiler: show
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See, you dummie, you're not getting my humor. That was my joke. I know he plays guitar, if I didn't I wouldn't have said that. To me it's a bit shocking that a guitar player would call this chord progression anything but dirt simple. Strat cleared that up for me already so we can move on.
my joke got more laughs than your joke.

Re: Superblood Wolfmoon

Posted: Tue February 18, 2020 4:07 pm
by Strat
all pearl jam songs are easy to play on guitar. They've never been a complex or challenging band.

Did you know that probably 98% of their songs are power chords?

Re: Superblood Wolfmoon

Posted: Tue February 18, 2020 4:07 pm
by Strat
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
tree_ wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Hey strat, quick question for you:
Spoiler: show
Image
See, you dummie, you're not getting my humor. That was my joke. I know he plays guitar, if I didn't I wouldn't have said that. To me it's a bit shocking that a guitar player would call this chord progression anything but dirt simple. Strat cleared that up for me already so we can move on.
my joke got more laughs than your joke.
Your joke was good ruddo and good morning!

Re: Superblood Wolfmoon

Posted: Tue February 18, 2020 4:09 pm
by tree_
Strat wrote:all pearl jam songs are easy to play on guitar. They've never been a complex or challenging band.

Did you know that probably 98% of their songs are power chords?
Yeah, the first song I learned on guitar was RVM. It's true and I agree complexity doesn't ultimately matter.