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durdencommatyler wrote:There was and it did.

durdencommatyler wrote:So what's the fantasy?

Bi_3 wrote:

elliseamos wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

elliseamos wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:Y’all member the Oregon Wildlife CHAZ that a bunch mouth breathers tried four years ago? This McP post on that has never been more relevant.

McParadigm wrote:
This is about entitlement, the rush of bully power, and a world view that has been fed only what it wants to hear for a very long time.

When your politicians and news sources all pander to your every fantasy, eventually anyone who disagrees must just be maliciously ignoring you.

Edit: Such quality in that thread..

I think a key difference between applying this sentiment then and now can be found in the word "fantasy."

Defund the police, abolish prisons, etc...

But that's my point, I don't get the sense that politicians and news sources are pandering to every fantasy. I think there has been quite a lot of nuance and range to the discussion, outside of FOX, of course.

That's because they are pandering to your fantasy, so to you it seems rational. Remember the last couple years when nearly everyday there was some newly discovered incontrovertible proof of Trump colluding with Russia that will surely get him impeached?

Peeps wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

elliseamos wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

elliseamos wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:Y’all member the Oregon Wildlife CHAZ that a bunch mouth breathers tried four years ago? This McP post on that has never been more relevant.

McParadigm wrote:
This is about entitlement, the rush of bully power, and a world view that has been fed only what it wants to hear for a very long time.

When your politicians and news sources all pander to your every fantasy, eventually anyone who disagrees must just be maliciously ignoring you.

Edit: Such quality in that thread..

I think a key difference between applying this sentiment then and now can be found in the word "fantasy."

Defund the police, abolish prisons, etc...

But that's my point, I don't get the sense that politicians and news sources are pandering to every fantasy. I think there has been quite a lot of nuance and range to the discussion, outside of FOX, of course.

That's because they are pandering to your fantasy, so to you it seems rational. Remember the last couple years when nearly everyday there was some newly discovered incontrovertible proof of Trump colluding with Russia that will surely get him impeached?

i mean if mitch didnt block every bit of evidence from being presented and all the repugnants werent so hell bent on preserving trump at every turn then um yea

elliseamos wrote:

Peeps wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

elliseamos wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

elliseamos wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:Y’all member the Oregon Wildlife CHAZ that a bunch mouth breathers tried four years ago? This McP post on that has never been more relevant.

McParadigm wrote:
This is about entitlement, the rush of bully power, and a world view that has been fed only what it wants to hear for a very long time.

When your politicians and news sources all pander to your every fantasy, eventually anyone who disagrees must just be maliciously ignoring you.

Edit: Such quality in that thread..

I think a key difference between applying this sentiment then and now can be found in the word "fantasy."

Defund the police, abolish prisons, etc...

But that's my point, I don't get the sense that politicians and news sources are pandering to every fantasy. I think there has been quite a lot of nuance and range to the discussion, outside of FOX, of course.

That's because they are pandering to your fantasy, so to you it seems rational. Remember the last couple years when nearly everyday there was some newly discovered incontrovertible proof of Trump colluding with Russia that will surely get him impeached?

i mean if mitch didnt block every bit of evidence from being presented and all the repugnants werent so hell bent on preserving trump at every turn then um yea

You mean the Mueller Report which found exactly what it was looking for and had to stop short of indicating the sitting president? Or do you mean his actual impeachment for the Ukraine abuse of power? Not to mention that both instances had rampant obstruction.

Those are fantasies?

Bi_3 wrote:

elliseamos wrote:

Peeps wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

elliseamos wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

elliseamos wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:Y’all member the Oregon Wildlife CHAZ that a bunch mouth breathers tried four years ago? This McP post on that has never been more relevant.

McParadigm wrote:
This is about entitlement, the rush of bully power, and a world view that has been fed only what it wants to hear for a very long time.

When your politicians and news sources all pander to your every fantasy, eventually anyone who disagrees must just be maliciously ignoring you.

Edit: Such quality in that thread..

I think a key difference between applying this sentiment then and now can be found in the word "fantasy."

Defund the police, abolish prisons, etc...

But that's my point, I don't get the sense that politicians and news sources are pandering to every fantasy. I think there has been quite a lot of nuance and range to the discussion, outside of FOX, of course.

That's because they are pandering to your fantasy, so to you it seems rational. Remember the last couple years when nearly everyday there was some newly discovered incontrovertible proof of Trump colluding with Russia that will surely get him impeached?

i mean if mitch didnt block every bit of evidence from being presented and all the repugnants werent so hell bent on preserving trump at every turn then um yea

You mean the Mueller Report which found exactly what it was looking for and had to stop short of indicating the sitting president? Or do you mean his actual impeachment for the Ukraine abuse of power? Not to mention that both instances had rampant obstruction.

Those are fantasies?

No silly bois, the daily MSNBC/CNN breaking news briefs that lead you to believe he was 48 hours from being impeached for like 3 years. You were being sold a perspective then and you are now.

Bi_3 wrote:Yeah, but I'm referring to the years of 24/7 less-than-accurate news reporting on the topic. This was done for profit to get your eyes on Ads on MSNBC and the like. Same with Fox News, if you are a Trump apologist. If you don't think that isnt happening again right now... I don't know what to tell you.

elliseamos wrote:Mr. BI,

It was true and he was impeached on truths.

-The World

Bi_3 wrote:

elliseamos wrote:Mr. BI,

It was true and he was impeached on truths.

-The World

I know bro. I have been, and still am, referring to the time between the first Steele Dossier leaks and release of the Mueller report when the media was nothing but 24/7 rumors powering the fantasy that he was minutes from impeachment because of their 'latest bombshell'. We were talking about media fueled fantasies. Not the outcome, but what happened during.

durdencommatyler wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

elliseamos wrote:Mr. BI,

It was true and he was impeached on truths.

-The World

I know bro. I have been, and still am, referring to the time between the first Steele Dossier leaks and release of the Mueller report when the media was nothing but 24/7 rumors powering the fantasy that he was minutes from impeachment because of their 'latest bombshell'. We were talking about media fueled fantasies. Not the outcome, but what happened during.

Oooooh. Okay, I see now. This makes way more sense. Also, what media where you most consuming during that period?

elliseamos wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

elliseamos wrote:Mr. BI,

It was true and he was impeached on truths.

-The World

I know bro. I have been, and still am, referring to the time between the first Steele Dossier leaks and release of the Mueller report when the media was nothing but 24/7 rumors powering the fantasy that he was minutes from impeachment because of their 'latest bombshell'. We were talking about media fueled fantasies. Not the outcome, but what happened during.

Oooooh. Okay, I see now. This makes way more sense. Also, what media where you most consuming during that period?

But it's not a fantasy to report that a good amount of the dossier was true and led to a Mueller Report that found collusion. The fact that Mueller and Rosenstein were handcuffed by Barr (unlike Sessions) does not make it less true/real. The fact that the White House's obstruction in this instance wasn't pursued for impeachment does not turn the facts of the reporting into fantasy. If we want to nit pick about sensationalism and speculations beyond the facts, fine, but the reality was and is that a good amount of the dossier was true and led to a Mueller Report that found collusion.

Strat wrote: What a shocking revelation about 24 hour cable news that ive never even considered!

elliseamos wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:Y’all member the Oregon Wildlife CHAZ that a bunch mouth breathers tried four years ago? This McP post on that has never been more relevant.

McParadigm wrote:
This is about entitlement, the rush of bully power, and a world view that has been fed only what it wants to hear for a very long time.

When your politicians and news sources all pander to your every fantasy, eventually anyone who disagrees must just be maliciously ignoring you.

Edit: Such quality in that thread..

I think a key difference between applying this sentiment then and now can be found in the word "fantasy."

Rob wrote:Yea but all that BI3 is describing is how cable news works, as if we didn't know. As strat said earlier:

Strat wrote: What a shocking revelation about 24 hour cable news that ive never even considered!

durdencommatyler wrote:

elliseamos wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

elliseamos wrote:Mr. BI,

It was true and he was impeached on truths.

-The World

I know bro. I have been, and still am, referring to the time between the first Steele Dossier leaks and release of the Mueller report when the media was nothing but 24/7 rumors powering the fantasy that he was minutes from impeachment because of their 'latest bombshell'. We were talking about media fueled fantasies. Not the outcome, but what happened during.

Oooooh. Okay, I see now. This makes way more sense. Also, what media where you most consuming during that period?

But it's not a fantasy to report that a good amount of the dossier was true and led to a Mueller Report that found collusion. The fact that Mueller and Rosenstein were handcuffed by Barr (unlike Sessions) does not make it less true/real. The fact that the White House's obstruction in this instance wasn't pursued for impeachment does not turn the facts of the reporting into fantasy. If we want to nit pick about sensationalism and speculations beyond the facts, fine, but the reality was and is that a good amount of the dossier was true and led to a Mueller Report that found collusion.

Oh, totally. I'm on your team here. I just wasn't understanding what 3 was getting at. Now I understand his point. I don't agree with it but I understand what he was getting at. And I'm a little relieved, frankly.

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