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Re: Pearl Jam WEEK on Jimmy Fallon

Posted: Sat October 26, 2013 4:11 pm
by stip
For the most part people agreed he was struggling. The debate was whether it was fatigue from the shows or a lack of inherent capacity.

Probably a bit of both

Re: Pearl Jam WEEK on Jimmy Fallon

Posted: Sat October 26, 2013 4:17 pm
by BurtReynolds
shezalightnin bawlt! If he's struggling, it's because it's a clunky, cumbersome song. bleh.

Re: Pearl Jam WEEK on Jimmy Fallon

Posted: Sat October 26, 2013 4:27 pm
by harmless
BurtReynolds wrote:shezalightnin bawlt! If he's struggling, it's because it's a clunky, cumbersome song. bleh.
I mean, that's always why people have vocal troubles, right?

Re: Pearl Jam WEEK on Jimmy Fallon

Posted: Sat October 26, 2013 4:33 pm
by stupidmop
Habitman wrote:
Release_Me wrote:
harmless wrote:Remembering lyrics is an inherent part of sounding good vocally, in my book. When the band is singing in English, and when the lyrics are meant to be a crucial part of the song...
Flubbing lyrics doesn't really affect how the vocals sound, but they do have a lot to do with the overall appreciation of the song. Since I know the song, I don't care if he repeats the same verses second time around as he did in Wrigley. If you hadn't heard the studio, as we hadn't then, it really didn't affect the appreciation of the song even.
One of his most iconic (maybe the most) performances was flubbed.
Black/unplugged.
People always mention this and I never hear it, what does he mess up?

Re: Pearl Jam WEEK on Jimmy Fallon

Posted: Sat October 26, 2013 4:34 pm
by harmless
stupidmop wrote:
Habitman wrote:
Release_Me wrote:
harmless wrote:Remembering lyrics is an inherent part of sounding good vocally, in my book. When the band is singing in English, and when the lyrics are meant to be a crucial part of the song...
Flubbing lyrics doesn't really affect how the vocals sound, but they do have a lot to do with the overall appreciation of the song. Since I know the song, I don't care if he repeats the same verses second time around as he did in Wrigley. If you hadn't heard the studio, as we hadn't then, it really didn't affect the appreciation of the song even.
One of his most iconic (maybe the most) performances was flubbed.
Black/unplugged.
People always mention this and I never hear it, what does he mess up?
Neither do I.

Re: Pearl Jam WEEK on Jimmy Fallon

Posted: Sat October 26, 2013 4:41 pm
by southp
I love that lightning bolt performance last night. It gave me a greater appreciation for one of my lesser favourites on the album. Fantastic!

Meanwhile, Sirens is on my top tracks on LB and I felt let down by the performance. Although it did pick up towards the end (after the guitar switch).

Re: Pearl Jam WEEK on Jimmy Fallon

Posted: Sat October 26, 2013 4:45 pm
by digster
I think it's way easier for up-tempo songs to translate into these types of television performances, though, both in terms of playing and watching them.

Re: Pearl Jam WEEK on Jimmy Fallon

Posted: Sat October 26, 2013 4:46 pm
by stupidmop
BurtReynolds wrote:shezalightnin bawlt! If he's struggling, it's because it's a clunky, cumbersome song. bleh.
It was a good performace of a clunky cumbersome song, which is the best we could have hoped for. Minus hoping for suprise! Badass b-side, or something.

It does baffle me that so many of these newer fast songs are so wordy, anyone singing it is gonna sound like a mushmouth. Add in pjs love for speeding shit up and well....

Re: Pearl Jam WEEK on Jimmy Fallon

Posted: Sat October 26, 2013 4:48 pm
by harmless
digster wrote:I think it's way easier for up-tempo songs to translate into these types of television performances, though, both in terms of playing and watching them.
Yeah. When Fallon says "SIREEENS!!!!!" in his excruciatingly excited voice, and then they play a ballad, it's kind of a buzzkill.

Re: Pearl Jam WEEK on Jimmy Fallon

Posted: Sat October 26, 2013 4:48 pm
by evenslow
digster wrote:I think it's way easier for up-tempo songs to translate into these types of television performances, though, both in terms of playing and watching them.
yeah the slow stuff doesn't utilize the band enough.

Re: Pearl Jam WEEK on Jimmy Fallon

Posted: Sat October 26, 2013 4:49 pm
by evenslow
stupidmop wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:shezalightnin bawlt! If he's struggling, it's because it's a clunky, cumbersome song. bleh.
It was a good performace of a clunky cumbersome song, which is the best we could have hoped for. Minus hoping for suprise! Badass b-side, or something.

It does baffle me that so many of these newer fast songs are so wordy, anyone singing it is gonna sound like a mushmouth. Add in pjs love for speeding shit up and well....
say something nice today. i dare you.

Re: Pearl Jam WEEK on Jimmy Fallon

Posted: Sat October 26, 2013 4:54 pm
by harmless
stupidmop wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:shezalightnin bawlt! If he's struggling, it's because it's a clunky, cumbersome song. bleh.
It was a good performace of a clunky cumbersome song, which is the best we could have hoped for. Minus hoping for suprise! Badass b-side, or something.

It does baffle me that so many of these newer fast songs are so wordy, anyone singing it is gonna sound like a mushmouth. Add in pjs love for speeding shit up and well....
The song wasn't sped up at all for this performance!

Re: Pearl Jam WEEK on Jimmy Fallon

Posted: Sat October 26, 2013 4:55 pm
by Strat
I really love seeing the band on a smaller stage like that compared to the big touring stage. FEels more intimate and makes them look and sound more like a garage band.

Re: Pearl Jam WEEK on Jimmy Fallon

Posted: Sat October 26, 2013 4:57 pm
by VinylGuy
oh, i loved it...it was flawed, but fucking awesome as well...gave me chills...and i dont care that much for the studio track...

That ending... :heartbeat:

FUCK YOU BOB, FUCK YOU FOR YOUR FADE OUTS-

Re: Pearl Jam WEEK on Jimmy Fallon

Posted: Sat October 26, 2013 4:59 pm
by stupidmop
harmless wrote:
stupidmop wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:shezalightnin bawlt! If he's struggling, it's because it's a clunky, cumbersome song. bleh.
It was a good performace of a clunky cumbersome song, which is the best we could have hoped for. Minus hoping for suprise! Badass b-side, or something.

It does baffle me that so many of these newer fast songs are so wordy, anyone singing it is gonna sound like a mushmouth. Add in pjs love for speeding shit up and well....
The song wasn't sped up at all for this performance!
Naw I mean in general. The liklihood of ed knocking these songs out of the park night after night is greatly decreased when theres so much words and theyre playing em that fast id imagine. Im talking out my ass though maybe ed finds it easier/more fun.

Re: Pearl Jam WEEK on Jimmy Fallon

Posted: Sat October 26, 2013 5:04 pm
by harmless
stupidmop wrote:
harmless wrote:
stupidmop wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:shezalightnin bawlt! If he's struggling, it's because it's a clunky, cumbersome song. bleh.
It was a good performace of a clunky cumbersome song, which is the best we could have hoped for. Minus hoping for suprise! Badass b-side, or something.

It does baffle me that so many of these newer fast songs are so wordy, anyone singing it is gonna sound like a mushmouth. Add in pjs love for speeding shit up and well....
The song wasn't sped up at all for this performance!
Naw I mean in general. The liklihood of ed knocking these songs out of the park night after night is greatly decreased when theres so much words and theyre playing em that fast id imagine. Im talking out my ass though maybe ed finds it easier/more fun.
No, I agree. But the worst offenders ever were Ole! and Supersonic.

Re: Pearl Jam WEEK on Jimmy Fallon

Posted: Sat October 26, 2013 5:06 pm
by stupidmop
evenslow wrote:
stupidmop wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:shezalightnin bawlt! If he's struggling, it's because it's a clunky, cumbersome song. bleh.
It was a good performace of a clunky cumbersome song, which is the best we could have hoped for. Minus hoping for suprise! Badass b-side, or something.

It does baffle me that so many of these newer fast songs are so wordy, anyone singing it is gonna sound like a mushmouth. Add in pjs love for speeding shit up and well....
say something nice today. i dare you.
It was a good performance! Bands lookin hawt! I didnt think sirens was that bad!

I should have made my boardname 'negative nancy' huh.

Re: Pearl Jam WEEK on Jimmy Fallon

Posted: Sat October 26, 2013 5:07 pm
by harmless
stupidmop wrote:
evenslow wrote:
stupidmop wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:shezalightnin bawlt! If he's struggling, it's because it's a clunky, cumbersome song. bleh.
It was a good performace of a clunky cumbersome song, which is the best we could have hoped for. Minus hoping for suprise! Badass b-side, or something.

It does baffle me that so many of these newer fast songs are so wordy, anyone singing it is gonna sound like a mushmouth. Add in pjs love for speeding shit up and well....
say something nice today. i dare you.
It was a good performance! Bands lookin hawt! I didnt think sirens was that bad!

I should have made my boardname 'negative nancy' huh.
You make a lot of sweeping generalisations. Get it? Sweeping? Mop? Sweeping?

Re: Pearl Jam WEEK on Jimmy Fallon

Posted: Sat October 26, 2013 5:12 pm
by stupidmop
I'll try to ......clean that shit up

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Re: Pearl Jam WEEK on Jimmy Fallon

Posted: Sat October 26, 2013 5:17 pm
by digster
evenslow wrote:
digster wrote:I think it's way easier for up-tempo songs to translate into these types of television performances, though, both in terms of playing and watching them.
yeah the slow stuff doesn't utilize the band enough.
I think it's more that you don't really have that atmosphere you can get from hearing a slow song done in a theater or arena; you're basically just watching them stand still and do a song on television, and your interest on it will likely depend on your interest in the song. With the more up tempo stuff, you have the visual energy of the performance to latch onto.