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Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Wed September 18, 2013 1:33 pm
by stip
the ending ahhh ohhhs on this song are very nice

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Wed September 18, 2013 1:37 pm
by mym23
stip wrote:
LetMeSleep wrote:
Edit: And in 1992 PJ etc were a breath of fresh air from this type of song. They do it well though.
I guess the question for some people (since few are arguing that this isn't executed well for what it is) is whether 20 years out a song like this has a place (in moderation)
I think it does, and I have a hard time equating this song to cock rock power ballads. The lyrics are far too good for that comparison.

At this point, I'll take a well written, well executed PJ song over the fast and easy forgettable songs off BS.

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Wed September 18, 2013 1:39 pm
by harmless
mym23 wrote:
stip wrote:
LetMeSleep wrote:
Edit: And in 1992 PJ etc were a breath of fresh air from this type of song. They do it well though.
I guess the question for some people (since few are arguing that this isn't executed well for what it is) is whether 20 years out a song like this has a place (in moderation)
I think it does, and I have a hard time equating this song to cock rock power ballads. The lyrics are far too good for that comparison.

At this point, I'll take a well written, well executed PJ song over the fast and easy forgettable songs off BS.
Definitely. It's interesting the amount of people calling this "just a cock rock ballad", relative to the amount of people who really don't care about lyrics much. These are very good for the type of song it is, and 80s power ballads have very bad lyrics. It reminds me of Counting Crows in that they have no problem writing a shamelessly cheesy pop song, but they will put relatively interesting stuff lyrically over it. It might not look great on paper but it has depth.

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Wed September 18, 2013 1:48 pm
by harmless
Ed is a dreamboat in this song!

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Wed September 18, 2013 1:50 pm
by warehouse
did we figure out if this thing has a chorus?

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Wed September 18, 2013 1:51 pm
by harmless
The "It's a fragile thing this life we lead..." section is the closest, but no, it doesn't really. There are rises and falls but nothing deliberately set aside as a chorus. That was a weakness in Unthought Known but a definite plus here.

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Wed September 18, 2013 1:53 pm
by philpritchard
harmless wrote:The "It's a fragile thing this life we lead..." section is the closest, but no, it doesn't really. There are rises and falls but nothing deliberately set aside as a chorus. That was a weakness in Unthought Known but a definite plus here.
I agree. I think a big chorus would have been way too much for this song.

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Wed September 18, 2013 1:59 pm
by Thejambi
The narrator is haunted by the thought of death. The sirens (I get ambulances) remind him one day they will come for him causing him to reflect and express appreciation for what he loves. I don't get 80's cheese from this. The music has that 80's ballad production that carried over into alot of modern pop country top 40 songs but I have always had a guilty pleasure for those.

Much like Backspacer this song doesn't dwell on the doom but reacts more positively to it (more successfully in my eyes)

It is a beautiful and honest song that is really hitting me.

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Wed September 18, 2013 2:02 pm
by LetMeSleep
Thejambi wrote:The narrator is haunted by the thought of death. The sirens (I get ambulances) remind him one day they will come for him causing him to reflect and express appreciation for what he loves. I don't get 80's cheese from this. The music has that 80's ballad production that carried over into alot of modern pop country top 40 songs but I have always had a guilty pleasure for those.

Much like Backspacer this song doesn't dwell on the doom but reacts more positively to it (more successfully in my eyes)

It is a beautiful and honest song that is really hitting me.
Spot on. And it's creeping up on me too.

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Wed September 18, 2013 2:04 pm
by harmless
It's very interesting that Ed wrote this in a motel room while listening to sirens in the street at night. That's exactly the image I get from this, and considering the melancholy kitsch and dirty-cheese of motels, the solo is entirely appropriate for that feeling of "My family aren't here and I want to go home" which is kind of heartbreaking, team. I get it.

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Wed September 18, 2013 2:04 pm
by HardTI
LetMeSleep wrote:
Thejambi wrote:The narrator is haunted by the thought of death. The sirens (I get ambulances) remind him one day they will come for him causing him to reflect and express appreciation for what he loves. I don't get 80's cheese from this. The music has that 80's ballad production that carried over into alot of modern pop country top 40 songs but I have always had a guilty pleasure for those.

Much like Backspacer this song doesn't dwell on the doom but reacts more positively to it (more successfully in my eyes)

It is a beautiful and honest song that is really hitting me.
Spot on. And it's creeping up on me too.
I'm with you fellas. This song moves me unlike anything they gave done in for-fucking-ever.

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Wed September 18, 2013 2:05 pm
by harmless
And again, KOL capture that feeling consistently in their ballads, PJ never has done till now.

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Wed September 18, 2013 2:06 pm
by Revelator
LetMeSleep wrote:
Thejambi wrote:The narrator is haunted by the thought of death. The sirens (I get ambulances) remind him one day they will come for him causing him to reflect and express appreciation for what he loves. I don't get 80's cheese from this. The music has that 80's ballad production that carried over into alot of modern pop country top 40 songs but I have always had a guilty pleasure for those.

Much like Backspacer this song doesn't dwell on the doom but reacts more positively to it (more successfully in my eyes)

It is a beautiful and honest song that is really hitting me.
Spot on. And it's creeping up on me too.
I haven't been able to get past the music yet, and the lyrics could be taken as kind of cheesy if Eddie's vocal wasn't so beautiful and sincere. As others have said, he really saves this one for me. His emotion is palpable in this song--the execution is quite moving really and I'm not usually a fan of these types of ballads. EDIT: I should clarify that I really like the lyrics, but if Ed didn't pull of the song so well they probably wouldn't have stood out the way they do.

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Wed September 18, 2013 2:07 pm
by LetMeSleep
Revelator wrote:
LetMeSleep wrote:
Thejambi wrote:The narrator is haunted by the thought of death. The sirens (I get ambulances) remind him one day they will come for him causing him to reflect and express appreciation for what he loves. I don't get 80's cheese from this. The music has that 80's ballad production that carried over into alot of modern pop country top 40 songs but I have always had a guilty pleasure for those.

Much like Backspacer this song doesn't dwell on the doom but reacts more positively to it (more successfully in my eyes)

It is a beautiful and honest song that is really hitting me.
Spot on. And it's creeping up on me too.
I haven't been able to get past the music yet, and the lyrics could be taken as kind of cheesy if Eddie's vocal wasn't so beautiful and sincere. As others have said, he really saves this one for me. His emotion is palpable in this song--the execution is quite moving really and I'm not usually a fan of these types of ballads.
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Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Wed September 18, 2013 2:12 pm
by Lounge Lizard
After 20+ years of negating the existence of a band called 'Nirvana' I've decided today that I need to download their full discography and give it a thorough listen.

Thank you, Sirens.

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Wed September 18, 2013 2:12 pm
by corduroyg
harmless wrote:Mike's proud of it because he's the big old cheeseball who wrote it.

Brendan O'Brien thinks it's the best thing the band has ever done because, well.

because hes a big old cheeseball?

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Wed September 18, 2013 2:14 pm
by harmless
corduroyg wrote:
harmless wrote:Mike's proud of it because he's the big old cheeseball who wrote it.

Brendan O'Brien thinks it's the best thing the band has ever done because, well.

because hes a big old cheeseball?
No.

Well, yes.

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Wed September 18, 2013 2:15 pm
by Lounge Lizard
Mrpennach wrote:Can someone PLEEEEEEASE PM me!!!!

Pretty Please!!!!
you're gonna regret it
run, run while you still can

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Wed September 18, 2013 2:16 pm
by harmless
Lounge Lizard, it sort of sounds like you're hating on the girl you'll eventually marry here.

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Wed September 18, 2013 2:19 pm
by Lounge Lizard
harmless wrote:Lounge Lizard, it sort of sounds like you're hating on the girl you'll eventually marry here.
NO