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Re: MLB

Posted: Mon December 07, 2015 9:38 pm
by Chris_H_2
what's going on with chapman and the dodgers?

Re: MLB

Posted: Mon December 07, 2015 9:42 pm
by Coach
From the Sox media relations guy:

In 2015, Carson Smith became the 1st AL reliever with at least 90 strikeouts and a ground ball rate of 65% or better since 1987.

The bullpen is loaded.

Re: MLB

Posted: Mon December 07, 2015 9:51 pm
by philpritchard
Stupid Mariners. That's a great trade for Boston.

Re: MLB

Posted: Mon December 07, 2015 10:08 pm
by Chris_H_2
so Scott Boras . . . er . . . Kris Bryant just filed a grievance against the Cubs for manipulating the service time requirements. He's going to lose. He should be pointing the finger at his union for collectively bargaining this.

Re: MLB

Posted: Mon December 07, 2015 10:17 pm
by numbers
I also would have much rather they traded Buchholz, but that's a good trade for the Sox. Miley is a good innings eater, but not much more than that. With this trade they have what looks to be a great bullpen.

Re: MLB

Posted: Mon December 07, 2015 10:20 pm
by numbers
Chris_H_2 wrote:so Scott Boras . . . er . . . Kris Bryant just filed a grievance against the Cubs for manipulating the service time requirements. He's going to lose. He should be pointing the finger at his union for collectively bargaining this.
I think this is more of a step to get this changed in the future.

Re: MLB

Posted: Mon December 07, 2015 10:23 pm
by Norah
numbers wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:so Scott Boras . . . er . . . Kris Bryant just filed a grievance against the Cubs for manipulating the service time requirements. He's going to lose. He should be pointing the finger at his union for collectively bargaining this.
I think this is more of a step to get this changed in the future.
yep, have a few grievances on the books, even if they were unsuccessful, to demonstrate the problem with the rules

Re: MLB

Posted: Mon December 07, 2015 11:00 pm
by Fuck You Jobu
cutuphalfdead wrote:
numbers wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:so Scott Boras . . . er . . . Kris Bryant just filed a grievance against the Cubs for manipulating the service time requirements. He's going to lose. He should be pointing the finger at his union for collectively bargaining this.
I think this is more of a step to get this changed in the future.
yep, have a few grievances on the books, even if they were unsuccessful, to demonstrate the problem with the rules
God forbid he only makes $480m in his career instead of $500m :waah:

Re: MLB

Posted: Mon December 07, 2015 11:08 pm
by numbers
This is why baseball players make good money. They have a strong union that challenges things, rather than getting walked all over like the NFLPA.

Re: MLB

Posted: Tue December 08, 2015 3:53 pm
by Fuck You Jobu
numbers wrote:This is why baseball players make good money. They have a strong union that challenges things, rather than getting walked all over like the NFLPA.
Absolutely. I always thought it was silly that football, basketball and hockey players were paid much less than baseball player. They have a more demanding physical aspect to it. And they play through much tougher injuries. Hang nail injury?

lt's hard to even call some baseball players athletes (Bartolo Colon we're looking in your direction).

Re: MLB

Posted: Tue December 08, 2015 6:18 pm
by Coach
numbers wrote:This is why baseball players make good money. They have a strong union that challenges things, rather than getting walked all over like the NFLPA.
NFLPA ought to hire Jeffrey L. Kessler full-time. #GOAT.

Re: MLB

Posted: Tue December 08, 2015 7:41 pm
by philpritchard
Fuck You Jobu wrote:
numbers wrote:This is why baseball players make good money. They have a strong union that challenges things, rather than getting walked all over like the NFLPA.
Absolutely. I always thought it was silly that football, basketball and hockey players were paid much less than baseball player. They have a more demanding physical aspect to it. And they play through much tougher injuries. Hang nail injury?

lt's hard to even call some baseball players athletes (Bartolo Colon we're looking in your direction).
I've never understood people calling out baseball players, particularly pitchers, for missing time with things like hangnails and blisters. It seems hilarious because, to most of us, it's a minor inconvenience. But to a pitcher, it has a massive impact on your ability to successfully do your job.

Re: MLB

Posted: Tue December 08, 2015 7:51 pm
by numbers
Yeah, you can't throw a slider with a hangnail. The grind that is a baseball season is more than enough to compensate for the lack of athleticism the sport has when compared to others.

Re: MLB

Posted: Tue December 08, 2015 8:07 pm
by Norah
Dusty Baker is already turning into a shit show.

Re: MLB

Posted: Tue December 08, 2015 8:13 pm
by numbers
cutuphalfdead wrote:Dusty Baker is already turning into a shit show.
Are you referring to his comments about Chapman? What's so bad about a guy saying he likes one of his former players?

Re: MLB

Posted: Tue December 08, 2015 8:27 pm
by Norah
numbers wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:Dusty Baker is already turning into a shit show.
Are you referring to his comments about Chapman? What's so bad about a guy saying he likes one of his former players?

Q. What do you know about the guy?
DUSTY BAKER: Oh, he’s a heck of a guy. I mean, a heck of a guy. I’ll go on record and say I wouldn’t mind having Chapman. No, no, he is a tremendous young man with a great family, mom and dad, and what he went through to get here and what his family had to go through to get here. I was with him through the whole process.

There was a couple times when I had to stop him from quitting or going back to Cuba because he was lonely for his family. So I went through a lot of stuff with Chapman. I got nothing but love for the young man.

Q. Were you surprised by — I don’t know how much you read about the allegations.
DUSTY BAKER: I didn’t read it.

Q. Are you surprised that this popped up?
DUSTY BAKER: I don’t read most of the stuff you guys write. No, I don’t.

Q. I believe you. I didn’t know if you heard anything.
DUSTY BAKER: I heard it from my son. I mean, who’s to say the allegations are true, number one. And who’s to say what you would have done or what caused the problem.

That last bit reeks of being a wife beater apologist.

Re: MLB

Posted: Tue December 08, 2015 8:27 pm
by Norah
And then there is:

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Re: MLB

Posted: Tue December 08, 2015 8:31 pm
by philpritchard
Someone just told me Dusty said some stupid stuff, but this is the first I've read of it. Wow.

Re: MLB

Posted: Tue December 08, 2015 8:41 pm
by Fuck You Jobu
numbers wrote:Yeah, you can't throw a slider with a hangnail. The grind that is a baseball season is more than enough to compensate for the lack of athleticism the sport has when compared to others.
Use the Flea method ;)

Re: MLB

Posted: Tue December 08, 2015 8:48 pm
by numbers
cutuphalfdead wrote:
numbers wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:Dusty Baker is already turning into a shit show.
Are you referring to his comments about Chapman? What's so bad about a guy saying he likes one of his former players?

Q. What do you know about the guy?
DUSTY BAKER: Oh, he’s a heck of a guy. I mean, a heck of a guy. I’ll go on record and say I wouldn’t mind having Chapman. No, no, he is a tremendous young man with a great family, mom and dad, and what he went through to get here and what his family had to go through to get here. I was with him through the whole process.

There was a couple times when I had to stop him from quitting or going back to Cuba because he was lonely for his family. So I went through a lot of stuff with Chapman. I got nothing but love for the young man.

Q. Were you surprised by — I don’t know how much you read about the allegations.
DUSTY BAKER: I didn’t read it.

Q. Are you surprised that this popped up?
DUSTY BAKER: I don’t read most of the stuff you guys write. No, I don’t.

Q. I believe you. I didn’t know if you heard anything.
DUSTY BAKER: I heard it from my son. I mean, who’s to say the allegations are true, number one. And who’s to say what you would have done or what caused the problem.

That last bit reeks of being a wife beater apologist.
Obviously if the reports are true Chapman is a piece of shit and should be suspended for at least half the season, but, he denies it, the cops never charged anyone with anything, and he is a former player of Dusty's. Dusty could have worded things better, but I wouldn't get the pitchforks out for him just yet.