Yeah but for her to suddenly be able to pull that off. They should have just killed her character thereStrat wrote:She's a skywalker. She had felt Lukes presence in the OT and had those comments about remembering/not remembering her mother. WE know she is strong with the force. Nothing else needed to be said or done to know that Leia is also a powerful force woman.Rangi Guy wrote:I have no problems with Leia not being in the next film. The scene where the bridge of her ship got blown I was thinking 'Well that's a bold move killing her off so soon' and I was down with it. Her whole space walk saving herself moment didn't make me think of her as being super strong with the force since she's not being shown before to use force abilities - it just seemed lazy and pissed off they went that route.
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I dont think everything needs to be explained. It doesnt need a full backstory. I see a lot of people (not saying you) that are angry and upset about Snoke. There has been a movie/storytelling culture of needing to explain everything in movies to the detriment of actual story telling.Rangi Guy wrote:Yeah but for her to suddenly be able to pull that off. They should have just killed her character thereStrat wrote:She's a skywalker. She had felt Lukes presence in the OT and had those comments about remembering/not remembering her mother. WE know she is strong with the force. Nothing else needed to be said or done to know that Leia is also a powerful force woman.Rangi Guy wrote:I have no problems with Leia not being in the next film. The scene where the bridge of her ship got blown I was thinking 'Well that's a bold move killing her off so soon' and I was down with it. Her whole space walk saving herself moment didn't make me think of her as being super strong with the force since she's not being shown before to use force abilities - it just seemed lazy and pissed off they went that route.
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Im expecting Anakin to come back too. And Obi Wan.
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This is backwards logic.Rangi Guy wrote:Yeah but for her to suddenly be able to pull that off. They should have just killed her character thereStrat wrote:She's a skywalker. She had felt Lukes presence in the OT and had those comments about remembering/not remembering her mother. WE know she is strong with the force. Nothing else needed to be said or done to know that Leia is also a powerful force woman.Rangi Guy wrote:I have no problems with Leia not being in the next film. The scene where the bridge of her ship got blown I was thinking 'Well that's a bold move killing her off so soon' and I was down with it. Her whole space walk saving herself moment didn't make me think of her as being super strong with the force since she's not being shown before to use force abilities - it just seemed lazy and pissed off they went that route.
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I hear what you're saying and get it - to me that scene just seemed too out of character. It might gel better with me in subsequent viewingsStrat wrote:I dont think everything needs to be explained. It doesnt need a full backstory. I see a lot of people (not saying you) that are angry and upset about Snoke. There has been a movie/storytelling culture of needing to explain everything in movies to the detriment of actual story telling.Rangi Guy wrote:Yeah but for her to suddenly be able to pull that off. They should have just killed her character thereStrat wrote:She's a skywalker. She had felt Lukes presence in the OT and had those comments about remembering/not remembering her mother. WE know she is strong with the force. Nothing else needed to be said or done to know that Leia is also a powerful force woman.Rangi Guy wrote:I have no problems with Leia not being in the next film. The scene where the bridge of her ship got blown I was thinking 'Well that's a bold move killing her off so soon' and I was down with it. Her whole space walk saving herself moment didn't make me think of her as being super strong with the force since she's not being shown before to use force abilities - it just seemed lazy and pissed off they went that route.
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I feel like I'm living in a Black Mirror episode.
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I loved the idea of it but I didnt love the execution. Something about how it was filmed and the CGI didnt sit well with me. But i love the narrative idea of it.Rangi Guy wrote:I hear what you're saying and get it - to me that scene just seemed too out of character. It might gel better with me in subsequent viewingsStrat wrote:I dont think everything needs to be explained. It doesnt need a full backstory. I see a lot of people (not saying you) that are angry and upset about Snoke. There has been a movie/storytelling culture of needing to explain everything in movies to the detriment of actual story telling.Rangi Guy wrote:Yeah but for her to suddenly be able to pull that off. They should have just killed her character thereStrat wrote:She's a skywalker. She had felt Lukes presence in the OT and had those comments about remembering/not remembering her mother. WE know she is strong with the force. Nothing else needed to be said or done to know that Leia is also a powerful force woman.Rangi Guy wrote:I have no problems with Leia not being in the next film. The scene where the bridge of her ship got blown I was thinking 'Well that's a bold move killing her off so soon' and I was down with it. Her whole space walk saving herself moment didn't make me think of her as being super strong with the force since she's not being shown before to use force abilities - it just seemed lazy and pissed off they went that route.
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It reminded me of this, no joke:

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There were lots of Spaceballs moments. It almost seemed like a reference to that movie.
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I guess in hindsight - my issue could be to do with the execution.Strat wrote:I loved the idea of it but I didnt love the execution. Something about how it was filmed and the CGI didnt sit well with me. But i love the narrative idea of it.Rangi Guy wrote:I hear what you're saying and get it - to me that scene just seemed too out of character. It might gel better with me in subsequent viewingsStrat wrote:I dont think everything needs to be explained. It doesnt need a full backstory. I see a lot of people (not saying you) that are angry and upset about Snoke. There has been a movie/storytelling culture of needing to explain everything in movies to the detriment of actual story telling.Rangi Guy wrote:Yeah but for her to suddenly be able to pull that off. They should have just killed her character thereStrat wrote:She's a skywalker. She had felt Lukes presence in the OT and had those comments about remembering/not remembering her mother. WE know she is strong with the force. Nothing else needed to be said or done to know that Leia is also a powerful force woman.Rangi Guy wrote:I have no problems with Leia not being in the next film. The scene where the bridge of her ship got blown I was thinking 'Well that's a bold move killing her off so soon' and I was down with it. Her whole space walk saving herself moment didn't make me think of her as being super strong with the force since she's not being shown before to use force abilities - it just seemed lazy and pissed off they went that route.
Other issues I had.
BB-8 controlling an AT-ST and it becoming super agile and manuvarable
Younger Luke's beard
Wasted Phasma
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The VFX in this were so interesting. Most of them felt very fanciful and... less heavy/real than JJ's or Gareth's. It was such an interesting choice to keep it feeling "old school" or "fantastic."
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WHAAAT?? BB8 controlling the AT?? That was amazing and younger Luke looked really great. I hated seeing how great he looked because that made me want to see him in action destroying everyone.Rangi Guy wrote:I guess in hindsight - my issue could be to do with the execution.Strat wrote:I loved the idea of it but I didnt love the execution. Something about how it was filmed and the CGI didnt sit well with me. But i love the narrative idea of it.Rangi Guy wrote:I hear what you're saying and get it - to me that scene just seemed too out of character. It might gel better with me in subsequent viewingsStrat wrote:I dont think everything needs to be explained. It doesnt need a full backstory. I see a lot of people (not saying you) that are angry and upset about Snoke. There has been a movie/storytelling culture of needing to explain everything in movies to the detriment of actual story telling.Rangi Guy wrote:Yeah but for her to suddenly be able to pull that off. They should have just killed her character thereStrat wrote:She's a skywalker. She had felt Lukes presence in the OT and had those comments about remembering/not remembering her mother. WE know she is strong with the force. Nothing else needed to be said or done to know that Leia is also a powerful force woman.Rangi Guy wrote:I have no problems with Leia not being in the next film. The scene where the bridge of her ship got blown I was thinking 'Well that's a bold move killing her off so soon' and I was down with it. Her whole space walk saving herself moment didn't make me think of her as being super strong with the force since she's not being shown before to use force abilities - it just seemed lazy and pissed off they went that route.
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BB8 was borderline terrible in this movie. All of his stuff was just too much. His plugging the circuit board and the ATST scene... I didn't like any of it.Rangi Guy wrote:I guess in hindsight - my issue could be to do with the execution.Strat wrote:I loved the idea of it but I didnt love the execution. Something about how it was filmed and the CGI didnt sit well with me. But i love the narrative idea of it.Rangi Guy wrote:I hear what you're saying and get it - to me that scene just seemed too out of character. It might gel better with me in subsequent viewingsStrat wrote:I dont think everything needs to be explained. It doesnt need a full backstory. I see a lot of people (not saying you) that are angry and upset about Snoke. There has been a movie/storytelling culture of needing to explain everything in movies to the detriment of actual story telling.Rangi Guy wrote:Yeah but for her to suddenly be able to pull that off. They should have just killed her character thereStrat wrote:She's a skywalker. She had felt Lukes presence in the OT and had those comments about remembering/not remembering her mother. WE know she is strong with the force. Nothing else needed to be said or done to know that Leia is also a powerful force woman.Rangi Guy wrote:I have no problems with Leia not being in the next film. The scene where the bridge of her ship got blown I was thinking 'Well that's a bold move killing her off so soon' and I was down with it. Her whole space walk saving herself moment didn't make me think of her as being super strong with the force since she's not being shown before to use force abilities - it just seemed lazy and pissed off they went that route.
Other issues I had.
BB-8 controlling an AT-ST and it becoming super agile and manuvarable
Younger Luke's beard
Wasted Phasma
Luke's beard didn't bother me.
Phasma was fine. Like Stip said earlier, she's a Bond henchman. And was used just well. If JJ hadn't dropped the ball on her in TFA then I'd agree with you. But based on what they gave us, I felt she was used perfectly in this.
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The only problem I had with "young Luke" was using him at the end. It totally tipped their hand immediately. I knew something was up the second he pulled the hood down at Crait.
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I also find it interesting the things people have against Phasma. To me she is the Bobba Fett of the new trilogy and was actually utilized quite a bit more than he ever was. The argument is she was underutilized. Yet everyone is totally fine with Bobba Fett. I think that is a "childhood vs adulthood" experience.
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I guess my issue with Phasma kinda stems from having recently just finished reading the novel where she's made out to be a total bad-ass warrior and then both of these films just minimize any of that.durdencommatyler wrote:BB8 was borderline terrible in this movie. All of his stuff was just too much. His plugging the circuit board and the ATST scene... I didn't like any of it.Rangi Guy wrote:I guess in hindsight - my issue could be to do with the execution.Strat wrote:I loved the idea of it but I didnt love the execution. Something about how it was filmed and the CGI didnt sit well with me. But i love the narrative idea of it.Rangi Guy wrote:I hear what you're saying and get it - to me that scene just seemed too out of character. It might gel better with me in subsequent viewingsStrat wrote:I dont think everything needs to be explained. It doesnt need a full backstory. I see a lot of people (not saying you) that are angry and upset about Snoke. There has been a movie/storytelling culture of needing to explain everything in movies to the detriment of actual story telling.Rangi Guy wrote:Yeah but for her to suddenly be able to pull that off. They should have just killed her character thereStrat wrote:She's a skywalker. She had felt Lukes presence in the OT and had those comments about remembering/not remembering her mother. WE know she is strong with the force. Nothing else needed to be said or done to know that Leia is also a powerful force woman.Rangi Guy wrote:I have no problems with Leia not being in the next film. The scene where the bridge of her ship got blown I was thinking 'Well that's a bold move killing her off so soon' and I was down with it. Her whole space walk saving herself moment didn't make me think of her as being super strong with the force since she's not being shown before to use force abilities - it just seemed lazy and pissed off they went that route.
Other issues I had.
BB-8 controlling an AT-ST and it becoming super agile and manuvarable
Younger Luke's beard
Wasted Phasma
Luke's beard didn't bother me.
Phasma was fine. Like Stip said earlier, she's a Bond henchman. And was used just well. If JJ hadn't dropped the ball on her in TFA then I'd agree with you. But based on what they gave us, I felt she was used perfectly in this.
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I agree Strat. I could see how she could survive it by using the force, but the way it was shot was not optimal.Strat wrote:I loved the idea of it but I didnt love the execution. Something about how it was filmed and the CGI didnt sit well with me. But i love the narrative idea of it.Rangi Guy wrote:I hear what you're saying and get it - to me that scene just seemed too out of character. It might gel better with me in subsequent viewingsStrat wrote:I dont think everything needs to be explained. It doesnt need a full backstory. I see a lot of people (not saying you) that are angry and upset about Snoke. There has been a movie/storytelling culture of needing to explain everything in movies to the detriment of actual story telling.Rangi Guy wrote:Yeah but for her to suddenly be able to pull that off. They should have just killed her character thereStrat wrote:She's a skywalker. She had felt Lukes presence in the OT and had those comments about remembering/not remembering her mother. WE know she is strong with the force. Nothing else needed to be said or done to know that Leia is also a powerful force woman.Rangi Guy wrote:I have no problems with Leia not being in the next film. The scene where the bridge of her ship got blown I was thinking 'Well that's a bold move killing her off so soon' and I was down with it. Her whole space walk saving herself moment didn't make me think of her as being super strong with the force since she's not being shown before to use force abilities - it just seemed lazy and pissed off they went that route.
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You know Phasma survived right?
She must have.
I hope not. I’d rather see a new character. It’s too late in the game maybe for a new one or to develop Phasma back from the dead.
Maybe getting rid of so many primary characters is to make room in 9 for the main characters?
I wish we’d bitten more of luke and Rey in this
She must have.
I hope not. I’d rather see a new character. It’s too late in the game maybe for a new one or to develop Phasma back from the dead.
Maybe getting rid of so many primary characters is to make room in 9 for the main characters?
I wish we’d bitten more of luke and Rey in this
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haha yeah, younger luke looked kinda weird, especially in the jedi academy flashbacks. had an owen lars thing going on, bad 70s hair maybe.
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