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Heathen wrote:ephinanal

Epophany

VinylGuy wrote:

stupidmop wrote:

Mine wrote:

hlniv wrote:

Pendulum - Why couldn't they have added a 90 second rock out at the end of this, when the drums get interesting? I still like it, I'll listen through almost every time it starts, it's a moody sing along, and that will always mean it will play well for me. But, it just feels stunted. This could have been Present Tense with the right rockin' outro.

Jeff and Stone were hanging out jamming and Jeff was playing keyboards and Stone was playing bongos with a guitar cable for a weird effect.

[bctrack]-[/bctrack]John Burton stayed late and was recording and guiding the idea

-"IF BRENDAN WAS THERE" Jeff says, IT LIKELY WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN RECORDED

-When Ed got a hold of it, it was on... he put such a beautiful but haunting vocal and lyric to it.

I guess neither Jeff,Stone, John Burton and latter Ed were able to "guide the idea" anywhere further.
This was linked in the B'OB bitching thread and i'm surprised it was largely ignored.
I agree with you about Pendulum but I'm surprised when people praise the song writing in this songs because i think it actually displays Jeff's and Stone's weaknesses as songwriters far more than does their strengths for the reasons you described.

I think on a different album it would have worked well as a little interlude/non song, the problem as it is, is that the music is so different/ much more interesting than the rest of lb so it stands out too much to do that here.

And as always, fuck bo'b. Srsly.

I saw a quote somewhere (from the new issue of deep I think?), where Jeff said his current favourite pj album is binaural, be still my b-balling heart. Binaural finally gets some lovin.

Jeff is going trough a very interesting phase as a songwriter.

Or whoever is "guiding his ideas" is

I fink I just had an epophany

I think you mean epiphany

Like lightning struck my brain....

hlniv wrote: Pendulum - Why couldn't they have added a 90 second rock out at the end of this, when the drums get interesting? I still like it, I'll listen through almost every time it starts, it's a moody sing along, and that will always mean it will play well for me. But, it just feels stunted. This could have been Present Tense with the right rockin' outro.

this would have completely ruined the song for me. i think its much better then present tense, and i think adding a "rockin'" outro would have totally out of place.

Strat wrote:I fink I just had an epophany

I think you mean epiphany

Like lightning struck my brain....

I think you mean an apostrophe.

Mine wrote:

VinylGuy wrote:

stupidmop wrote:

Mine wrote:

hlniv wrote:

Pendulum - Why couldn't they have added a 90 second rock out at the end of this, when the drums get interesting? I still like it, I'll listen through almost every time it starts, it's a moody sing along, and that will always mean it will play well for me. But, it just feels stunted. This could have been Present Tense with the right rockin' outro.

Jeff and Stone were hanging out jamming and Jeff was playing keyboards and Stone was playing bongos with a guitar cable for a weird effect.

[bctrack]-[/bctrack]John Burton stayed late and was recording and guiding the idea

-"IF BRENDAN WAS THERE" Jeff says, IT LIKELY WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN RECORDED

-When Ed got a hold of it, it was on... he put such a beautiful but haunting vocal and lyric to it.

I guess neither Jeff,Stone, John Burton and latter Ed were able to "guide the idea" anywhere further.
This was linked in the B'OB bitching thread and i'm surprised it was largely ignored.
I agree with you about Pendulum but I'm surprised when people praise the song writing in this songs because i think it actually displays Jeff's and Stone's weaknesses as songwriters far more than does their strengths for the reasons you described.

I think on a different album it would have worked well as a little interlude/non song, the problem as it is, is that the music is so different/ much more interesting than the rest of lb so it stands out too much to do that here.

And as always, fuck bo'b. Srsly.

I saw a quote somewhere (from the new issue of deep I think?), where Jeff said his current favourite pj album is binaural, be still my b-balling heart. Binaural finally gets some lovin.

Jeff is going trough a very interesting phase as a songwriter.

Or whoever is "guiding his ideas" is

?

theplatypus wrote:

Strat wrote:I fink I just had an epophany

I think you mean epiphany

Like lightning struck my brain....

I think you mean an apostrophe.

Goddammit. Im surprised that I both knew it as well as I did yet not well enough.

theplatypus wrote:

Strat wrote:I fink I just had an epophany

I think you mean epiphany

Like lightning struck my brain....

I think you mean an apostrophe.

or an Episcopalian

all this epilepsy talk is getting me twitchy

Are you going to have an episode?

This thread is an apostrophe.

Strat wrote:

theplatypus wrote:

Strat wrote:I fink I just had an epophany

I think you mean epiphany

Like lightning struck my brain....

I think you mean an apostrophe.

Goddammit. Im surprised that I both knew it as well as I did yet not well enough.

Points to you, I had to Google it to figure out what the hell you were talking about.

harmless wrote:Are you going to have an episode?

Ehh, possibly.

stupidmop wrote: I think on a different album it would have worked well as a little interlude/non song, the problem as it is, is that the music is so different/ much more interesting than the rest of lb so it stands out too much to do that here.

That i think is a weakness and the weakness in the song writing at it. It seems to me that while what they originally come up with, the down tuned doorbell rip off here for instance i have absolutely no issue with that but they don't seem to have the skills to make more than a non song out of it and the fact that they needed someone to guide them only confirms it. I think despite all the praise Jeff's songs from LB get here they live mostly off of the vocal performances they rely on them too much even and i really love those vocal performances mind you. This is why i wouldn't be particularly exited by an album with exclusively Jeff/Stone music. They're fairly average if you consider this is their 4th decade as recording artists. I mean Pendulum isn't complex to the point you'd think it's above their skill sets.

Mine wrote:

stupidmop wrote: I think on a different album it would have worked well as a little interlude/non song, the problem as it is, is that the music is so different/ much more interesting than the rest of lb so it stands out too much to do that here.

That i think is a weakness and the weakness in the song writing at it. It seems to me that while what they originally come up with, the down tuned doorbell rip off here for instance i have absolutely no issue with that but they don't seem to have the skills to make more than a non song out of it and the fact that they needed someone to guide them only confirms it. I think despite all the praise Jeff's songs from LB get here they live mostly off of the vocal performances they rely on them too much even and i really love those vocal performances mind you. This is why i wouldn't be particularly exited by an album with exclusively Jeff/Stone music. They're fairly average if you consider this is their 4th decade as recording artists. I mean Pendulum isn't complex to the point you'd think it's above their skill sets.

did u call pendulum a "non song"?

Mine wrote:

stupidmop wrote: I think on a different album it would have worked well as a little interlude/non song, the problem as it is, is that the music is so different/ much more interesting than the rest of lb so it stands out too much to do that here.

That i think is a weakness and the weakness in the song writing at it. It seems to me that while what they originally come up with, the down tuned doorbell rip off here for instance i have absolutely no issue with that but they don't seem to have the skills to make more than a non song out of it and the fact that they needed someone to guide them only confirms it. I think despite all the praise Jeff's songs from LB get here they live mostly off of the vocal performances they rely on them too much even and i really love those vocal performances mind you. This is why i wouldn't be particularly exited by an album with exclusively Jeff/Stone music. They're fairly average if you consider this is their 4th decade as recording artists. I mean Pendulum isn't complex to the point you'd think it's above their skill sets.

I don't think they were trying to come up with an amazingly complex song and this was the best they could do though, I think they just put together a cool bit of music. Both Jeff and stone have written proper 'song' songs, good ones. Plus I'd take some more vague not exactly songs over more songs with a thousand parts, structured verse-verse-prechourus-chorus-solo-verse-bridge-prechorus-chorus-chorus-outro like LB or something.

#18 this week with 15,951 copies, according to HDD. That puts US totals for the first month at around 255,000.

McParadigm wrote:Right now, though, I'd bet on this finishing up somewhere between 250-350k.

It's looking like you've got a good chance at being right, friend.

Worldwide totals should cross 500k in the next two or three weeks.

warehouse wrote:

Mine wrote:

stupidmop wrote: I think on a different album it would have worked well as a little interlude/non song, the problem as it is, is that the music is so different/ much more interesting than the rest of lb so it stands out too much to do that here.

That i think is a weakness and the weakness in the song writing at it. It seems to me that while what they originally come up with, the down tuned doorbell rip off here for instance i have absolutely no issue with that but they don't seem to have the skills to make more than a non song out of it and the fact that they needed someone to guide them only confirms it. I think despite all the praise Jeff's songs from LB get here they live mostly off of the vocal performances they rely on them too much even and i really love those vocal performances mind you. This is why i wouldn't be particularly exited by an album with exclusively Jeff/Stone music. They're fairly average if you consider this is their 4th decade as recording artists. I mean Pendulum isn't complex to the point you'd think it's above their skill sets.

did u call pendulum a "non song"?

Well stupidmop did. It's a song all right. I don't think it's a non song, i think it could have been more of a song than it is cool music with a vocal line on top of it. It's better than what something like that would have been in the past.

McParadigm wrote:#18 this week with 15,951 copies, according to HDD. That puts US totals for the first month at around 255,000.

McParadigm wrote:Right now, though, I'd bet on this finishing up somewhere between 250-350k.

It's looking like you've got a good chance at being right, friend.

Worldwide totals should cross 500k in the next two or three weeks.

depends on how many Seven boxsets were pressed

Mine wrote:

warehouse wrote:

Mine wrote:

stupidmop wrote: I think on a different album it would have worked well as a little interlude/non song, the problem as it is, is that the music is so different/ much more interesting than the rest of lb so it stands out too much to do that here.

That i think is a weakness and the weakness in the song writing at it. It seems to me that while what they originally come up with, the down tuned doorbell rip off here for instance i have absolutely no issue with that but they don't seem to have the skills to make more than a non song out of it and the fact that they needed someone to guide them only confirms it. I think despite all the praise Jeff's songs from LB get here they live mostly off of the vocal performances they rely on them too much even and i really love those vocal performances mind you. This is why i wouldn't be particularly exited by an album with exclusively Jeff/Stone music. They're fairly average if you consider this is their 4th decade as recording artists. I mean Pendulum isn't complex to the point you'd think it's above their skill sets.

did u call pendulum a "non song"?

Well stupidmop did. It's a song all right. I don't think it's a non song, i think it could have been more of a song than it is cool music with a vocal line on top of it. It's better than what something like that would have been in the past.

Is it? If it's "better", I wonder whether that's just because of what's surrounding it. There was a time when it would've been a "filler" track.