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Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat October 28, 2017 8:27 pm
by 96583UP
get your pardon pens ready
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat October 28, 2017 9:54 pm
by epilogue
yup
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat October 28, 2017 10:03 pm
by Norah
durdencommatyler wrote:yup
it's like knowing the red wedding is coming
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat October 28, 2017 10:13 pm
by McParadigm
Pretty accurate.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat October 28, 2017 10:31 pm
by McParadigm
But I mean, if this administration took those steps and this congress and justice department accepted and were silent, could they ever afford to turn over power again?
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sun October 29, 2017 12:17 am
by Norah
lol twitter banned roger stone
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sun October 29, 2017 2:46 am
by Superblood Wolfmoon
I have to imagine that a guy like Mueller is playing a long game here and knows full well pardons may come into play. I’m not worried.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sun October 29, 2017 2:47 am
by tragabigzanda
meatwad wrote:I have to imagine that a guy like Mueller is playing a long game here and knows full well pardons may come into play. I’m not worried.
My understanding is that's why he's partnered with the NY AG: because the POTUS can't pardon offenses charged by the state.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sun October 29, 2017 3:01 am
by McParadigm
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sun October 29, 2017 3:02 am
by dimejinky99
Putting a €5 bet down that Trump at some point declares himself too stupid to stand trial cos he’s stupid and they did it and he didn’t know what was happening.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sun October 29, 2017 3:08 am
by McParadigm
McParadigm wrote:Fox News is seriously gonna ride this train all the way to hell, huh
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sun October 29, 2017 3:14 am
by Simple Torture
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sun October 29, 2017 3:59 pm
by Bi_3
Buzzfeed suggests it’s manafort financial activity from 2011-2014.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sun October 29, 2017 4:16 pm
by 96583UP
would makes sense
and hopefully will correspond with an announcement from the NY AG
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sun October 29, 2017 4:21 pm
by McParadigm
96583UP wrote:would makes sense
and hopefully will correspond with an announcement from the NY AG
Lord yes
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sun October 29, 2017 4:26 pm
by tragabigzanda
McParadigm wrote:96583UP wrote:would makes sense
and hopefully will correspond with an announcement from the NY AG
Lord yes
I read somewhere yesterday (WaPo? The Hill? Can't remember, but it was a legit outlet) that one of the NY state attorneys with whom Mueller has partnered has a history of bringing charges against family members as a way of compelling the principle to start cooperating; the article suggested that family members of both Manafort and Flynn could be charged on Monday.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sun October 29, 2017 4:27 pm
by Bi_3
Not sure how that leads to charges against Trump though.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sun October 29, 2017 4:28 pm
by tragabigzanda
Bi_3 wrote:Not sure how that leads to charges against Trump though.
In theory, if Manafort or Flynn have been reticent to implicate Trump, the fear of seeing an immediate family member in prison could sway them.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sun October 29, 2017 4:31 pm
by McParadigm
It's still very possible that Donald Trump is not in direct legal danger, and won't be. But his children and son in law appear to be a very different story, which would explain his rage and which potentially has/will open him up to obstructive decisions.
If Jared or Don Junior are in real legal danger, I don't believe he has the personality to standby and do nothing. He will destroy himself or derail the entire experiment to prevent it.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sun October 29, 2017 4:33 pm
by tragabigzanda
McParadigm wrote:It's still very possible that Donald Trump is not in direct legal danger, and won't be. But his children and son in law appear to be a very different story, which would explain his rage and which potentially has/will open him up to obstructive decisions.
If Jared or Don Junior are in real legal danger, I don't believe he has the personality to standby and do nothing. He will destroy the world and derail the entire experiment to prevent it.
FTFY