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Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 10:08 pm
by Birds in Hell
Chris_H_2 wrote:
CopperTom wrote:
AndySlash wrote:
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:Lost out on reserved for Lincoln which was my first choice but got ga and we got Memphis ga which was also our first choice on Chloe's number
wait, so lincoln reserved was choice 1 and ga choice 2, and you got ga? with the high "odds" for reserved for that show, which was still 99% i believe at ticket request closing, that would suggest to me they didn't get enough to fill ga and are filling that section first regardless of your priority.

am i missing something here?
They fill GA first. Then the fill reserved. That is why I removed my Tulsa GA entry.
That's not true. They fill your first selection first. And if there are tickets available in the section you chose as your first selection, then you're supposed to get them.
No, CopperTom is right.

The drawing is done by section, not by member.

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 10:10 pm
by Chris_H_2
I don't see anywhere that says that they fill your second selection before your first selection.

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 10:10 pm
by CopperTom
Chris_H_2 wrote:
CopperTom wrote:
AndySlash wrote:
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:Lost out on reserved for Lincoln which was my first choice but got ga and we got Memphis ga which was also our first choice on Chloe's number
wait, so lincoln reserved was choice 1 and ga choice 2, and you got ga? with the high "odds" for reserved for that show, which was still 99% i believe at ticket request closing, that would suggest to me they didn't get enough to fill ga and are filling that section first regardless of your priority.

am i missing something here?
They fill GA first. Then the fill reserved. That is why I removed my Tulsa GA entry.
That's not true. They fill your first selection first. And if there are tickets available in the section you chose as your first selection, then you're supposed to get them.
It is true. GA is filled first. Stockholm proved this. No one got Reserved. Everyone got GA even if it was a worse priority.

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 10:11 pm
by delanoche
Chris_H_2 wrote:I don't see anywhere that says that they fill your second selection before your first selection.
I'm pretty sure there were reports of that happening when they did the 2013 U.S. tour though too.

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 10:11 pm
by Chloe
hlniv wrote:
AndySlash wrote:
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:Lost out on reserved for Lincoln which was my first choice but got ga and we got Memphis ga which was also our first choice on Chloe's number
wait, so lincoln reserved was choice 1 and ga choice 2, and you got ga? with the high "odds" for reserved for that show, which was still 99% i believe at ticket request closing, that would suggest to me they didn't get enough to fill ga and are filling that section first regardless of your priority.

am i missing something here?
I think you're correct. Lincoln GA was at 71% odds at 1:00. I think this also means that those that had Lincoln Reserved as a higher priority than some others that had Lincoln GA way down the priority got the GA tickets over the ones that requested it with lower picks. I guess that makes sense, but still seems like they should have given the Reserved folks their 1st priority and not GA
Maybe they really dontw have reserved seats set aside for that show?

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 10:11 pm
by CopperTom
Chris_H_2 wrote:I don't see anywhere that says that they fill your second selection before your first selection.
They don't advertise it, but it definitely true.

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 10:14 pm
by Chris_H_2
Birds in Hell wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
CopperTom wrote:
AndySlash wrote:
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:Lost out on reserved for Lincoln which was my first choice but got ga and we got Memphis ga which was also our first choice on Chloe's number
wait, so lincoln reserved was choice 1 and ga choice 2, and you got ga? with the high "odds" for reserved for that show, which was still 99% i believe at ticket request closing, that would suggest to me they didn't get enough to fill ga and are filling that section first regardless of your priority.

am i missing something here?
They fill GA first. Then the fill reserved. That is why I removed my Tulsa GA entry.
That's not true. They fill your first selection first. And if there are tickets available in the section you chose as your first selection, then you're supposed to get them.
No, CopperTom is right.

The drawing is done by section, not by member.
But based on selection. They clump everyone that chooses GA as their first selection together, and do a lottery. And likewise, they clump everyone that chooses reserved as their first selection, and do a lottery. The only way you're supposed to get GA is if (1) you choose it as your 1st selection and were drawn, or (2) you choose it as your 2nd choice, your first choice was rejected (because not enough seats remained), they had GA tix left over after the lottery among those that chose GA as their 1st selection, and you won the lottery among those that also selected GA as their 2nd choice.

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 10:14 pm
by Chris_H_2
CopperTom wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
CopperTom wrote:
AndySlash wrote:
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:Lost out on reserved for Lincoln which was my first choice but got ga and we got Memphis ga which was also our first choice on Chloe's number
wait, so lincoln reserved was choice 1 and ga choice 2, and you got ga? with the high "odds" for reserved for that show, which was still 99% i believe at ticket request closing, that would suggest to me they didn't get enough to fill ga and are filling that section first regardless of your priority.

am i missing something here?
They fill GA first. Then the fill reserved. That is why I removed my Tulsa GA entry.
That's not true. They fill your first selection first. And if there are tickets available in the section you chose as your first selection, then you're supposed to get them.
It is true. GA is filled first. Stockholm proved this. No one got Reserved. Everyone got GA even if it was a worse priority.
Then they suck even more than that I thought they did.

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 10:14 pm
by AndySlash
CopperTom wrote: They fill GA first. Then the fill reserved.
is this noted somewhere? the description suggested all tix are drawn for first priorities, then the system moves to second, etc. it makes sense they would do that, i just don't recall seeing that mentioned.
For each show we will randomly draw members who have made that show their #1 priority. If any tickets remain the system will randomly draw names of members who have chosen that show as their #2 priority, and so on until every ticket for a given show has been sold. Please keep in mind that not everyone can have their #1 priority. Priority rank is merely a consideration.
i guess that last couple sentences is their caveat?

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 10:15 pm
by AndySlash
whoa, this talk blew up.

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 10:16 pm
by CopperTom
Got my results

Milwaukee Reserved - Won
Tulsa Reserved - Won
Milwaukee GA - Lost

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 10:18 pm
by Hatfield
hlniv wrote:
BDB wrote:i got milwaukee reserved. honestly surprised i won.
Hatfield wrote:Got reserved for Denver! My 1st choice.

Sorry to those who missed out.

When did you submit your entries?
1st day they went up.

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 10:19 pm
by CopperTom
AndySlash wrote:
CopperTom wrote: They fill GA first. Then the fill reserved.
is this noted somewhere? the description suggested all tix are drawn for first priorities, then the system moves to second, etc. it makes sense they would do that, i just don't recall seeing that mentioned.
RM and The Pit sometimes contain useful knowledge compiled by their members. :)

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 10:24 pm
by Birds in Hell
I do think 10 Club could do a better job of explaining to people how the drawing works; as this thread shows, there's still a great deal of confusion.

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 10:25 pm
by broken iris
CopperTom wrote:Got my results

Milwaukee Reserved - Won
Tulsa Reserved - Won
Milwaukee GA - Lost

Cool. I think I'm last. Could be my first shutout for 10c tickets ever. EVER.

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 10:26 pm
by Lament
I think they could do away with a lot of the "confusion" if they quit having GA and reserved as separate selections (even if this required going back to not having GA at all) and just had people rank show choices.

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 10:29 pm
by Chris_H_2
broken iris wrote:
CopperTom wrote:Got my results

Milwaukee Reserved - Won
Tulsa Reserved - Won
Milwaukee GA - Lost

Cool. I think I'm last. Could be my first shutout for 10c tickets ever. EVER.
Me too (except, of course, when I got shut out on the Pearl Jam Interplanetary Tour in 2013 where I put in for Mars Reserved Seating, followed by Uranus and then Mercury).

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 10:32 pm
by Dr. Van Nostrand
If Lincoln was at 77% for reserved at 1pm then that means more people put in for the tickets then what they had available, and most of those probably had ga as their 2nd, they lucked out and got reserved and i didn't. I did get ga which had the lower percentage but the percentage went up has the ones who got reserved no longer were in the drawing for ga.

I doubt they are gonna give me ga tickets just because they want to fill it first

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 10:34 pm
by broken iris
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote: I doubt they are gonna give me ga tickets just because they want to fill it first
I think there was evidence this was done several times.

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 10:38 pm
by broken iris
FINALLY.


1.) DEN RES WON
2.) MILWAK RES LOST
3.) MILONE RES LOST



1/3, at least I got the one I really wanted.