Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Wed September 04, 2013 2:51 am
Not surprised that Future Days and LB "live" sound about the same on the album, at least according to some of these reviews.
I think both will be improved on the album though, just being nice clean performances will be nice to hearCoach wrote:Not surprised that Future Days and LB "live" sound about the same on the album, at least according to some of these reviews.
I might be dumb, but I have the feeling this will be the best since Riot Act. Considering the last two, that might be a low bar, but it keeps me believingCoach wrote:Not surprised that Future Days and LB "live" sound about the same on the album, at least according to some of these reviews.
melonhead4 wrote:From what I gather from the couple reviews ive read is that LB is going to be a darker more atmospheric record...and that's exactly the kind of album ive been waiting for.....I bet this thing leaks in a couple weeks....im in desperate need of new PJ music
I would be very happy with thatCleverman wrote:I might be dumb, but I have the feeling this will be the best since Riot Act. Considering the last two, that might be a low bar, but it keeps me believingCoach wrote:Not surprised that Future Days and LB "live" sound about the same on the album, at least according to some of these reviews.
Agreed but the last two have really started to grow on me....Especially self titled...Cleverman wrote:I might be dumb, but I have the feeling this will be the best since Riot Act. Considering the last two, that might be a low bar, but it keeps me believingCoach wrote:Not surprised that Future Days and LB "live" sound about the same on the album, at least according to some of these reviews.
They are a live band. I had a feeling everyone who thought the studio tracks were going to sound so much different/better were going to be wrong.Coach wrote:Not surprised that Future Days and LB "live" sound about the same on the album, at least according to some of these reviews.
When did Riot Act set the bar for this one?Cleverman wrote:I might be dumb, but I have the feeling this will be the best since Riot Act. Considering the last two, that might be a low bar, but it keeps me believing
Riot Act, Binaural and S/T are in a fierce competition for the lowest spot in my personal ranking list.Buby wrote:When did Riot Act set the bar for this one?Cleverman wrote:I might be dumb, but I have the feeling this will be the best since Riot Act. Considering the last two, that might be a low bar, but it keeps me believing
It's my 2nd least favorite album (and yes, I really like Backspacer).

Binaural?Lounge Lizard wrote:Riot Act, Binaural and S/T are in a fierce competition for the lowest spot in my personal ranking list.Buby wrote:When did Riot Act set the bar for this one?Cleverman wrote:I might be dumb, but I have the feeling this will be the best since Riot Act. Considering the last two, that might be a low bar, but it keeps me believing
It's my 2nd least favorite album (and yes, I really like Backspacer).
I don't think it will be different but especially Lightning Bolt will benefit from hearing all the instruments clearly. I still believe I will like the studio version more.verb_to_trust wrote:They are a live band. I had a feeling everyone who thought the studio tracks were going to sound so much different/better were going to be wrong.Coach wrote:Not surprised that Future Days and LB "live" sound about the same on the album, at least according to some of these reviews.
Yeah, well, maybe it caught me in a bad time when it came out, I don't know... Something in the overall sound turns me off. NAIS, Of The Girl and Parting Ways are the tracks I can relate to, the rest just aren't working for me.Buby wrote:Binaural?Lounge Lizard wrote:Riot Act, Binaural and S/T are in a fierce competition for the lowest spot in my personal ranking list.Buby wrote:When did Riot Act set the bar for this one?Cleverman wrote:I might be dumb, but I have the feeling this will be the best since Riot Act. Considering the last two, that might be a low bar, but it keeps me believing
It's my 2nd least favorite album (and yes, I really like Backspacer).
enimmi wrote:It is confirmed that the new song that was played during this year's soundcheck in London, Ontaria is Infallible. (good call, Dime).
If you think the verses to "Sleight of Hand" are even trying for a "firm melody", you've completely missed the point. Ed's vocal performance in that song is great because it's operating gracefully within the harmonic space laid down by Jeff and Stone, making melodic figures over it, doing a sort of modal "solo" over the music. It sounds good, and most importantly, it completely fits the listless, meandering feel of the verse lyrics. It also adds weight to the chorus, which resolves beautifully by shifting into 4/4 time, distorted guitars and what you call a "firm" melody-- basically, it morphs into a standard rock song, like a brief surge of strength and resolve amidst a sea of downtrodden ennui. Your dismissal of it couldn't be more wrong.Lounge Lizard wrote:Sleight of Hand gets a lot of praise, and I understand why people might like it. My main turn off with this song is that it's not properly written and composed. The verse is a sort of a melodic narration over the howling guitar background, but in fact it lacks a firm melody. It feels like it's being made up on the go by a musician who is experiencing a creative crisis and is desperately trying all the notes in search of a melody that will finally click. It doesn't, and he kind of says "ah, fuck it" and goes into the chorus, for which he HAS in fact been able to find a melody, and he dwells on it for a while in a kind of a relief knowing that at least this part sounds like he knows what the hell he is doing.
There you again with the "I'm right and you're wrong" attitudetheplatypus wrote:If you think the verses to "Sleight of Hand" are even trying for a "firm melody", you've completely missed the point. Ed's vocal performance in that song is great because it's operating gracefully within the harmonic space laid down by Jeff and Stone, making melodic figures over it, doing a sort of modal "solo" over the music. It sounds good, and most importantly, it completely fits the listless, meandering feel of the verse lyrics. It also adds weight to the chorus, which resolves beautifully by shifting into 4/4 time, distorted guitars and what you call a "firm" melody-- basically, it morphs into a standard rock song, like a brief surge of strength and resolve amidst a sea of downtrodden ennui. Your dismissal of it couldn't be more wrong.Lounge Lizard wrote:Sleight of Hand gets a lot of praise, and I understand why people might like it. My main turn off with this song is that it's not properly written and composed. The verse is a sort of a melodic narration over the howling guitar background, but in fact it lacks a firm melody. It feels like it's being made up on the go by a musician who is experiencing a creative crisis and is desperately trying all the notes in search of a melody that will finally click. It doesn't, and he kind of says "ah, fuck it" and goes into the chorus, for which he HAS in fact been able to find a melody, and he dwells on it for a while in a kind of a relief knowing that at least this part sounds like he knows what the hell he is doing.
That's wrong. Whether it fits your notion of "good" or not, there's nothing incorrect or improper about the composition of the song.Lounge Lizard wrote: it's not properly written and composed.