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Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed November 02, 2016 5:07 pm
by McParadigm
Strat wrote:4/5 wrote:So Trump's gonna win this thing, huh?
Just kill me. Lets get this over with.
I think that, under current circumstances, Clinton is still extremely likely to win. She is probably one serious "controversy" away from a loss, though, so basically the US election is now determined by the quality of Wikileaks' Russian-bought goods.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed November 02, 2016 5:10 pm
by 4/5
I think she is more likely to win but I'm nowhere near confident enough to say extremely confident. And that point you posted from 538 is a big reason why.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed November 02, 2016 5:25 pm
by Bi_3
Maybe the election would be better without all these polls.
- Spoiler: show
- said every third wave feminist ever
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed November 02, 2016 5:38 pm
by McParadigm
4/5 wrote:I think she is more likely to win but I'm nowhere near confident enough to say extremely confident. And that point you posted from 538 is a big reason why.
Either way, it's the point in my last sentence that matters most. We are all sitting inside a hurricane election that not only suffers from foreign power
and concentrated hacker influence, but where those parties may yet decide the outcome.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed November 02, 2016 5:38 pm
by McParadigm
Either no election will ever be like this again, or all of them will. Either way, this is historic.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed November 02, 2016 5:40 pm
by McParadigm
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed November 02, 2016 5:47 pm
by Bi_3
McParadigm wrote:Either no election will ever be like this again, or all of them will. Either way, this is historic.
Have they really not been like this before? Or have we simply not admitted it ourselves?
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed November 02, 2016 5:50 pm
by McParadigm
Bi_3 wrote:McParadigm wrote:Either no election will ever be like this again, or all of them will. Either way, this is historic.
Have they really not been like this before? Or have we simply not admitted it ourselves?
In my lifetime, they absolutely have not.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed November 02, 2016 6:23 pm
by Electromatic
All show, no substance.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed November 02, 2016 6:35 pm
by BurtReynolds
tragabigzanda wrote:Seriously happy I live in MT, guys. All our neighbors are liberals with semi-automatic weapons.
That's interesting, because I feel like if the shit ever goes down, my money's on the pro gun, pro police, pro military side. The Left is gonna need to rethink their relationship with guns real quick.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed November 02, 2016 6:39 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed November 02, 2016 6:47 pm
by Simple Torture
It's insane that with this map, Clinton still wins:
If you need me, I'll be breathing into a paper bag for a week.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed November 02, 2016 6:50 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed November 02, 2016 6:51 pm
by Simple Torture
tragabigzanda wrote:Simple Torture wrote:It's insane that with this map, Clinton still wins:
If you need me, I'll be breathing into a paper bag for a week.
Hmm, 538 is still showing FL in a dead heat. Your source is predicting an electoral win for Trump in FL?
I was just playing around with it, not really a prediction. In this scenario, she could still lose NH or NV (but not both) and still win.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed November 02, 2016 6:56 pm
by BurtReynolds
It's even crazier to look at the county maps. (This ones from 2012)

Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed November 02, 2016 6:58 pm
by Simple Torture
There's plenty of overlap here (linked and not embedded because this is huge):
https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/file ... 38a1_o.jpg
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed November 02, 2016 7:06 pm
by Bi_3
McParadigm wrote:Bi_3 wrote:McParadigm wrote:Either no election will ever be like this again, or all of them will. Either way, this is historic.
Have they really not been like this before? Or have we simply not admitted it ourselves?
In my lifetime, they absolutely have not.
Hmmm. I feel like information manipulation has been prevalent for a while now. It's hasn't been on this scale, but "leaks" before an election are not new and foreign interference is not new.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed November 02, 2016 7:17 pm
by Green Habit
Democrats should be less worried about the winning the presidency and more worried about regaining the Senate.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed November 02, 2016 7:28 pm
by Simple Torture
Green Habit wrote:Democrats should be less worried about the winning the presidency and more worried about regaining the Senate.
It's not that I disagree with you, but it's obvious that they have to win one or the other.
Would a Democrat-led house try to block all Trump SCOTUS appointments? I'd be disappointed.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed November 02, 2016 7:44 pm
by Norah
BurtReynolds wrote:It's even crazier to look at the county maps. (This ones from 2012)

Fortunately land doesn't vote, people do.