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Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed November 01, 2017 12:25 pm
by bune
tragabigzanda wrote:Potentially game-changing tidbit picked up from OnPoint today: Anyone who received a presidential pardon is not allowed to plead the fifth if questioned under oath. The guest (some legal expert) suggested that perhaps Trump doesn't even realize that Manafort and Gates would be more dangerous to him if they were pardoned.
You say that like they wouldn't be lying anyway.

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I chuckled, but then I realized that she's not going away because Trump & friends won't shut the hell up.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed November 01, 2017 1:23 pm
by B
The comments are fantastic. All some variation on the asinine plan of taking free candy from your kid to teach them the difference between socialism and capitalism.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed November 01, 2017 1:26 pm
by Simple Torture
B wrote:
*too

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed November 01, 2017 1:29 pm
by McParadigm
There were some dynamite responses to that yesterday.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed November 01, 2017 1:29 pm
by McParadigm
The big takeaway from CNN's morning story

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed November 01, 2017 1:38 pm
by Bi_3
Simple Torture wrote:
B wrote:
*too
Ugh. Another grammar national socialist.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed November 01, 2017 1:43 pm
by McParadigm

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed November 01, 2017 5:04 pm
by McParadigm
Real life.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed November 01, 2017 5:11 pm
by B
Bi_3 wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
B wrote:
*too
Ugh. Another grammar national socialist.
That kid's a shitty trick-or-treater. She's got like 15 pieces of candy. Other kids should be redistributing the candy wealth TO her.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed November 01, 2017 5:22 pm
by McParadigm
“You Can’t Go Any Lower”: Inside the West Wing, Trump Is Apoplectic as Allies Fear Impeachment

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/11 ... chment/amp
“Here’s what Manafort’s indictment tells me: Mueller is going to go over every financial dealing of Jared Kushner and the Trump Organization,” said former Trump campaign aide Sam Nunberg. “Trump is at 33 percent in Gallup. You can’t go any lower. He’s fucked.”

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed November 01, 2017 5:24 pm
by McParadigm
Jesus.
Wing are on edge and doing whatever they can not to be ensnared. One person close to Dina Powell and Gary Cohn said they’re making sure to leave rooms if the subject of Russia comes up.
Speaking to Steve Bannon on Tuesday, Trump blamed Jared Kushner for his role in decisions, specifically the firings of Mike Flynn and James Comey, that led to Mueller’s appointment, according to a source briefed on the call. When Roger Stone recently told Trump that Kushner was giving him bad political advice, Trump agreed, according to someone familiar with the conversation. “Jared is the worst political adviser in the White House in modern history,” Nunberg said. “I’m only saying publicly what everyone says behind the scenes at Fox News, in conservative media, and the Senate and Congress.”

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed November 01, 2017 5:29 pm
by tragabigzanda
McParadigm wrote:Jesus.
Wing are on edge and doing whatever they can not to be ensnared. One person close to Dina Powell and Gary Cohn said they’re making sure to leave rooms if the subject of Russia comes up.
Speaking to Steve Bannon on Tuesday, Trump blamed Jared Kushner for his role in decisions, specifically the firings of Mike Flynn and James Comey, that led to Mueller’s appointment, according to a source briefed on the call. When Roger Stone recently told Trump that Kushner was giving him bad political advice, Trump agreed, according to someone familiar with the conversation. “Jared is the worst political adviser in the White House in modern history,” Nunberg said. “I’m only saying publicly what everyone says behind the scenes at Fox News, in conservative media, and the Senate and Congress.”
:luv:

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed November 01, 2017 5:50 pm
by tragabigzanda
McParadigm wrote:“You Can’t Go Any Lower”: Inside the West Wing, Trump Is Apoplectic as Allies Fear Impeachment

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/11 ... chment/amp
“Here’s what Manafort’s indictment tells me: Mueller is going to go over every financial dealing of Jared Kushner and the Trump Organization,” said former Trump campaign aide Sam Nunberg. “Trump is at 33 percent in Gallup. You can’t go any lower. He’s fucked.”
This part illustrates exactly why I think Bannon and his ilk are so completely off-base:
Vanity Fair wrote:Roger Stone believes defunding Mueller isn’t enough. Instead, Stone wants Trump to call for a special prosecutor to investigate Hillary Clinton’s role in approving the controversial Uranium One deal that’s been a locus of rightwing hysteria (the transaction involved a Russian state-owned energy firm acquiring a Canadian mining company that controlled 20 percent of the uranium in the United States). It’s a bit of a bank shot, but as Stone described it, a special prosecutor looking into Uranium One would also have to investigate the F.B.I.’s role in approving the deal, thereby making Mueller—who was in charge of the bureau at the time—a target. Stone’s choice for a special prosecutor: Rudy Giuliani law colleague Marc Mukasey or Fox News pundit Andrew Napolitano. “You would immediately have to inform Mueller, Comey, and [Deputy Attorney General] Rod Rosenstein that they are under federal investigation,” Stone said. “Trump can’t afford to fire Mueller politically. But this pushes him aside.”
Here's the core fault with Bannon's "economic nationalism": The world is so deeply entrenched in the globalization economic model that any attempt at "economic nationalism" completely ignores the realities of how good and services are produced and distributed.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed November 01, 2017 8:30 pm
by McParadigm
B wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
B wrote:
*too
Ugh. Another grammar national socialist.
That kid's a shitty trick-or-treater. She's got like 15 pieces of candy. Other kids should be redistributing the candy wealth TO her.
Best response to this tweet was "you literally took her door to door asking for handouts"

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed November 01, 2017 8:59 pm
by McParadigm

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed November 01, 2017 9:16 pm
by McParadigm
Red flag?

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed November 01, 2017 9:25 pm
by tragabigzanda
For the life of me, I can't understand how that nonsensical response could be taken that way.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed November 01, 2017 11:32 pm
by Bi_3
McParadigm wrote:
B wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
B wrote:
*too
Ugh. Another grammar national socialist.
That kid's a shitty trick-or-treater. She's got like 15 pieces of candy. Other kids should be redistributing the candy wealth TO her.
Best response to this tweet was "you literally took her door to door asking for handouts"
Which is sad because neither is “socialism”. Socialism is when the means of wealth production are publically owned. Candy would we be personal property and outside he boundary of socialist economic policy.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu November 02, 2017 12:23 am
by 96583UP
DJT Jr enjoying one of his last twitter posts pre-indictment

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu November 02, 2017 12:53 am
by tragabigzanda