Red Mosquito

Mecca wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

Simple Torture wrote:Would GOT ever do a post-credits scene? I'm thinking: there hasn't been as much of a focus on reincarnation/warging on the show (at least for years), so I think Jon's death will hit show-watchers pretty hard. But I'm sure every show watcher who knows at least one book reader would hear theories about how he'll be back. But a post-credits Lady Stoneheart scene would give show-watchers basically the same feeling that all of us have (i.e., death is not the end).

I'd be okay with a fade to black... several beats... everyone expects credits to roll... fade in to Stoneheart scene. Then credits with triumphant main theme playing!

I'd hope they don't go back to the main theme for that when there's a perfectly good song for that moment

Spoiler: show

Thriller

cutuphalfdead wrote:Stoneheart will not be in the show. It's just too late for that.

Mecca wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:Stoneheart will not be in the show. It's just too late for that.

is it? They're apparently casting for Meribald and Dog

Mecca wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:Stoneheart will not be in the show. It's just too late for that.

is it? They're apparently casting for Meribald and Dog

durdencommatyler wrote:

Mecca wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:Stoneheart will not be in the show. It's just too late for that.

is it? They're apparently casting for Meribald and Dog

And why even introduce Beric Dondarrion and his whole deal if you're not going to have a payoff?

Mecca wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

Mecca wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:Stoneheart will not be in the show. It's just too late for that.

is it? They're apparently casting for Meribald and Dog

And why even introduce Beric Dondarrion and his whole deal if you're not going to have a payoff?

to get Arya her own dog

“Lady Stoneheart does have a role in the books,” Martin said. “Whether it’s sufficient or interesting enough… I think it is, or I wouldn’t have put her in. One of the things I wanted to show with her is that the death she suffered changes you.”

Continues Martin: “I’ve talked about Gandalf [in The Lord of the Rings], and how the impact of his death was enormous. When I was a 12-year-old kid reading The Fellowship of the Ring and ‘Fly, you fools!’ and he goes into the chasm … it was ‘Holy shit! [J.R.R. Tolkien] killed the wizard! That’s the guy who knew everything. How are they going to destroy the ring without him?’ And now the ‘kids’ have to grow up because their ‘daddy’ is dead. If Gandalf could die, anybody could die. And then just a few chapters later Boromir goes down. Those two deaths created in me the ‘anyone could die’ thing. At that point I was expecting [Tolkien] to pick off the whole Fellowship one by one. And then we also think in The Two Towers that Frodo is dead, since Shelob stung him and wrapped him up. I really bought it because he set me up with those other deaths. But then, of course, he brings Gandalf back. He’s a little strange at first, but then he’s basically the same old Gandalf. I liked the impact we got from him being gone.”

Martin’s explanation initially sounds like an argument against including Lady Stoneheart, but Martin then noted: “Lady Stoneheart is not Cateyln. I’ve tried to set it up beforehand with Beric Dondarrion and his repeated [resurrections]. There’s a brief appearance by Beric in Book One and he rides into the city and he’s this flamboyant Southern knight. That’s not that man we meet later on.”

durdencommatyler wrote:I really don't get all the hate for the Sand Snakes on the show. They aren't that great in the books either. What am I missing? At what point do we see them do anything exceptional? Why do people have such an affinity for them in the books but hate them on the show?

jwfocker wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:I really don't get all the hate for the Sand Snakes on the show. They aren't that great in the books either. What am I missing? At what point do we see them do anything exceptional? Why do people have such an affinity for them in the books but hate them on the show?

It's not that they are great in the books it's just how incredibly awful they are in the show. It's wasted air time.

cutuphalfdead wrote:

jwfocker wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:I really don't get all the hate for the Sand Snakes on the show. They aren't that great in the books either. What am I missing? At what point do we see them do anything exceptional? Why do people have such an affinity for them in the books but hate them on the show?

It's not that they are great in the books it's just how incredibly awful they are in the show. It's wasted air time.

This

durdencommatyler wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:

jwfocker wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:I really don't get all the hate for the Sand Snakes on the show. They aren't that great in the books either. What am I missing? At what point do we see them do anything exceptional? Why do people have such an affinity for them in the books but hate them on the show?

It's not that they are great in the books it's just how incredibly awful they are in the show. It's wasted air time.

This

I feel like I remember them being more of a waste of page space than air time. Aren't they in the books less? Don't they just sit a fucking cell and do nothing?

jwfocker wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:

jwfocker wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:I really don't get all the hate for the Sand Snakes on the show. They aren't that great in the books either. What am I missing? At what point do we see them do anything exceptional? Why do people have such an affinity for them in the books but hate them on the show?

It's not that they are great in the books it's just how incredibly awful they are in the show. It's wasted air time.

This

I feel like I remember them being more of a waste of page space than air time. Aren't they in the books less? Don't they just sit a fucking cell and do nothing?

Point taken. I think they're uselessness is more jarring in a visual medium.

durdencommatyler wrote:

jwfocker wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:

jwfocker wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:I really don't get all the hate for the Sand Snakes on the show. They aren't that great in the books either. What am I missing? At what point do we see them do anything exceptional? Why do people have such an affinity for them in the books but hate them on the show?

It's not that they are great in the books it's just how incredibly awful they are in the show. It's wasted air time.

This

I feel like I remember them being more of a waste of page space than air time. Aren't they in the books less? Don't they just sit a fucking cell and do nothing?

Point taken. I think they're uselessness is more jarring in a visual medium.

That may be. It doesn't help that they either didn't cast competent actors, or the directors haven't been able to get competent performances from them.

I would much rather have seen Asha/Yara. But, really, it's only been three scenes right? Maybe four? And the longest one was the Bronn/cell scene.

Meanwhile there was a 23 minute battle sequence last week that could have been 10 minutes shorter and just as potent. I don't know. Just feels like there's a lot of wasted space on the series sometimes and it's weird to me that the Sand Snakes take the brunt of the criticism. Which is unfair.