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Re: Black Lives Matter
Posted: Tue June 01, 2021 8:55 pm
by BurtReynolds
At least B is trying to defend the warped ideology rather than desperately trying to convince us it's no big deal.
Re: Black Lives Matter
Posted: Tue June 01, 2021 9:25 pm
by Bi_3
B wrote:Bi_3 wrote:B wrote:You're raging against the machine that's raging against the machine.
I think about the fact we from this:
to multiple countries racing to put robots on Mars, in barely over a century and I think... look at how far we have come. We literally just invented a new vaccine against a never before seen disease (outside of a Chinese lab) and have vaccinated close to two billion people in about a year. Yeah... sometimes people are assholes and mock pronouns on social media, but is this 'system' something we need to rage against or just something that needs a few teaks here and there so everyone benefits more equally*?
*and I do mean equally, not equitably.
Fair enough. I do not endorse eliminating all technological advances in order to ensure equality.
System. We are talking about the system, aka 'the machine' to rage against. The system that brought us how are communicating right now is exactly what they want to tear down.
Also, and you know this,
equality is racist.
Re: Black Lives Matter
Posted: Wed June 02, 2021 12:02 am
by Rob
I think American history has already shown that the system won’t change (even if just a tweak) unless some people are raging against it. We call it activism and it’s useful & necessary even though it can go too far sometimes.
Re: Black Lives Matter
Posted: Wed June 02, 2021 3:50 pm
by Bammer
B wrote:Bammer wrote:B wrote:Bammer wrote:I think it’s “whiteness is a disease and you should be ashamed of the way you were born”?
I was thinking of the one where people of color don't participate because it's too painful for them to watch white people do the work of eliminating their biases.
... which I know is a ridiculous overstatement of the training, but I'm pretty sure that's how the conservatives on the board have described it.
I’m not sure, but “Critical Race Theory” is a popular one and from what I’ve heard the basic approach is to separate people by race and concentrate on their differences.
That's what it was.
I just heard a story about a school district here in WA attempting to make Critical Race Theory an official part of the curriculum. Two of the key tenets identified:
- You shouldn’t have too many friends who look or think the same as you
- If you are white you should proactively pass up opportunities to be in positions of power, in favor of minorities taking those positions
Re: Black Lives Matter
Posted: Thu June 03, 2021 2:58 am
by verb_to_trust
How about we teach kids Math?
Re: Black Lives Matter
Posted: Thu June 03, 2021 3:13 am
by simple schoolboy
verb_to_trust wrote:How about we teach kids Math?
Only after we de-colonize it.
Re: Black Lives Matter
Posted: Thu June 03, 2021 3:33 am
by verb_to_trust
Seriously though. Our kids are incredibly stupid. How in the world can we waste time on something like critical race theory? If someone wants to take out some student loans to study that in college by all means but let's focus on making sure the under 18 crowd can actually read and write.
Re: Black Lives Matter
Posted: Thu June 03, 2021 6:20 am
by simple schoolboy
Probably more appropriate for the gun thread, but whatever. Not having a business license to grow pot is a felony? Yeah, you can't shoot people through a closed door, but the charges seem excessive.
Hopefully this guy finds a sympathetic jury and skates.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/black-oklaho ... 12621.html
Re: Black Lives Matter
Posted: Thu June 03, 2021 11:28 am
by Peeps
verb_to_trust wrote:Seriously though. Our kids are incredibly stupid. How in the world can we waste time on something like critical race theory? If someone wants to take out some student loans to study that in college by all means but let's focus on making sure the under 18 crowd can actually read and write.
Hear me out as I know this sounds crazy. All three can be taught
Re: Black Lives Matter
Posted: Thu June 03, 2021 12:32 pm
by B
Peeps wrote:verb_to_trust wrote:Seriously though. Our kids are incredibly stupid. How in the world can we waste time on something like critical race theory? If someone wants to take out some student loans to study that in college by all means but let's focus on making sure the under 18 crowd can actually read and write.
Hear me out as I know this sounds crazy. All three can be taught
All this critical race theory is probably why we've fallen behind the world on STEM education.
Re: Black Lives Matter
Posted: Thu June 03, 2021 1:10 pm
by Bammer
B wrote:Peeps wrote:verb_to_trust wrote:Seriously though. Our kids are incredibly stupid. How in the world can we waste time on something like critical race theory? If someone wants to take out some student loans to study that in college by all means but let's focus on making sure the under 18 crowd can actually read and write.
Hear me out as I know this sounds crazy. All three can be taught
All this critical race theory is probably why we've fallen behind the world on STEM education.
Honestly that is due to too many choices on TV. There are like a million cartoons on demand.
Re: Black Lives Matter
Posted: Thu June 03, 2021 3:27 pm
by surfndestroy
Peeps wrote:verb_to_trust wrote:Seriously though. Our kids are incredibly stupid. How in the world can we waste time on something like critical race theory? If someone wants to take out some student loans to study that in college by all means but let's focus on making sure the under 18 crowd can actually read and write.
Hear me out as I know this sounds crazy. All three can be taught
Why not teach people how to think critically before you indoctrinate them. I know, it will make the indoctrination tougher but isn't the goal of schooling to teach people how to think and not what to think.
Re: Black Lives Matter
Posted: Thu June 03, 2021 4:14 pm
by Peeps
surfndestroy wrote:Peeps wrote:verb_to_trust wrote:Seriously though. Our kids are incredibly stupid. How in the world can we waste time on something like critical race theory? If someone wants to take out some student loans to study that in college by all means but let's focus on making sure the under 18 crowd can actually read and write.
Hear me out as I know this sounds crazy. All three can be taught
Why not teach people how to think critically before you indoctrinate them. I know, it will make the indoctrination tougher but isn't the goal of schooling to teach people how to think and not what to think.
then no teaching history at all because it is all biased and therefore a form of indoctrination
Re: Black Lives Matter
Posted: Thu June 03, 2021 4:23 pm
by Bi_3
Peeps wrote:surfndestroy wrote:Peeps wrote:verb_to_trust wrote:Seriously though. Our kids are incredibly stupid. How in the world can we waste time on something like critical race theory? If someone wants to take out some student loans to study that in college by all means but let's focus on making sure the under 18 crowd can actually read and write.
Hear me out as I know this sounds crazy. All three can be taught
Why not teach people how to think critically before you indoctrinate them. I know, it will make the indoctrination tougher but isn't the goal of schooling to teach people how to think and not what to think.
then no teaching history at all because it is all biased and therefore a form of indoctrination
Ironically, this is what a lot of CRT-derived curriculum are all about.
Re: Black Lives Matter
Posted: Thu June 03, 2021 11:35 pm
by verb_to_trust
Parents should teach their kids morals, not Stephanie and her lesson plans.
Re: Black Lives Matter
Posted: Fri June 04, 2021 2:35 am
by surfndestroy
Peeps wrote:surfndestroy wrote:Peeps wrote:verb_to_trust wrote:Seriously though. Our kids are incredibly stupid. How in the world can we waste time on something like critical race theory? If someone wants to take out some student loans to study that in college by all means but let's focus on making sure the under 18 crowd can actually read and write.
Hear me out as I know this sounds crazy. All three can be taught
Why not teach people how to think critically before you indoctrinate them. I know, it will make the indoctrination tougher but isn't the goal of schooling to teach people how to think and not what to think.
then no teaching history at all because it is all biased and therefore a form of indoctrination
Teach kids to think critically and they can deal with biases.
Re: Black Lives Matter
Posted: Fri June 04, 2021 2:37 am
by verb_to_trust
surfndestroy wrote:Peeps wrote:surfndestroy wrote:Peeps wrote:verb_to_trust wrote:Seriously though. Our kids are incredibly stupid. How in the world can we waste time on something like critical race theory? If someone wants to take out some student loans to study that in college by all means but let's focus on making sure the under 18 crowd can actually read and write.
Hear me out as I know this sounds crazy. All three can be taught
Why not teach people how to think critically before you indoctrinate them. I know, it will make the indoctrination tougher but isn't the goal of schooling to teach people how to think and not what to think.
then no teaching history at all because it is all biased and therefore a form of indoctrination
Teach kids to think critically and they can deal with biases.
Me child. Me do what cell phone tell me.
Re: Black Lives Matter
Posted: Fri June 04, 2021 2:52 am
by surfndestroy
verb_to_trust wrote:surfndestroy wrote:Peeps wrote:surfndestroy wrote:Peeps wrote:verb_to_trust wrote:Seriously though. Our kids are incredibly stupid. How in the world can we waste time on something like critical race theory? If someone wants to take out some student loans to study that in college by all means but let's focus on making sure the under 18 crowd can actually read and write.
Hear me out as I know this sounds crazy. All three can be taught
Why not teach people how to think critically before you indoctrinate them. I know, it will make the indoctrination tougher but isn't the goal of schooling to teach people how to think and not what to think.
then no teaching history at all because it is all biased and therefore a form of indoctrination
Teach kids to think critically and they can deal with biases.
Me child. Me do what cell phone tell me.
I wonder if Peeps thinks Germany won WWII? In a world with no facts and only biased analysis maybe there’s a case to be made for Germany having won. After all, they pretty much have sole control of the EU. That is if the EU evens exists.
Re: Black Lives Matter
Posted: Fri June 04, 2021 12:45 pm
by Rob
Do you have kids, Verb? If so, are they the smartest, greatest kids in the world? Well adjusted and morally righteous, like their dad?
Re: Black Lives Matter
Posted: Fri June 04, 2021 1:01 pm
by B
Rob wrote:Do you have kids, Verb? If so, are they the smartest, greatest kids in the world? Well adjusted and morally righteous, like their dad?
