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Re: Transgender Rights

Posted: Thu June 10, 2021 2:26 am
by simple schoolboy
I'm suprised the union wasn't more active in getting him forced out. Maybe they'll demand some language about transphobia in their next contract.

Re: Transgender Rights

Posted: Thu June 10, 2021 2:30 am
by B
simple schoolboy wrote:I'm suprised the union wasn't more active in getting him forced out. Maybe they'll demand some language about transphobia in their next contract.
That's the opposite of what unions do

Re: Transgender Rights

Posted: Thu June 10, 2021 2:33 am
by simple schoolboy
B wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:I'm suprised the union wasn't more active in getting him forced out. Maybe they'll demand some language about transphobia in their next contract.
That's the opposite of what unions do
Its what the NYT union does, I figure it'll trickle down to the teacher's union at some point.

Re: Transgender Rights

Posted: Thu June 10, 2021 2:42 am
by McParadigm
It’s really not worth getting worked up over. He’s just a person doing what he thinks is right, surrounded by a sea of change.

He’s wrong, but he’s not the problem.

Re: Transgender Rights

Posted: Thu June 10, 2021 3:04 am
by Bi_3
Assuming most are unfamiliar with DMV area politics, so a bit of background:

https://www.loudountimes.com/news/teach ... dd342.html


You know it’s getting progressive in there when school board members are organizing with activists in secret Facebook groups to create enemies lists and activists are openly calling for the silencing of opponents and firing of teachers.

This particular dummy just decided to martyr himself

Re: Transgender Rights

Posted: Thu June 10, 2021 10:15 pm
by Green Habit
B wrote:
Green Habit wrote:With the teacher having the right to do that, students should also have the right to not attend his classes.
They should be free to call him Mr. Dickface.
But first they gotta do this:


Re: Transgender Rights

Posted: Fri June 11, 2021 12:26 am
by Rob
McParadigm wrote:It’s really not worth getting worked up over. He’s just a person doing what he thinks is right, surrounded by a sea of change.

He’s wrong, but he’s not the problem.
:thumbsup:

Re: Transgender Rights

Posted: Sat June 12, 2021 2:55 am
by simple schoolboy
Bi_3 wrote:Assuming most are unfamiliar with DMV area politics, so a bit of background:

https://www.loudountimes.com/news/teach ... dd342.html


You know it’s getting progressive in there when school board members are organizing with activists in secret Facebook groups to create enemies lists and activists are openly calling for the silencing of opponents and firing of teachers.

This particular dummy just decided to martyr himself
Does anyone else know what "DMV" means in this context?

Re: Transgender Rights

Posted: Sat June 12, 2021 11:54 am
by Bi_3
simple schoolboy wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:Assuming most are unfamiliar with DMV area politics, so a bit of background:

https://www.loudountimes.com/news/teach ... dd342.html


You know it’s getting progressive in there when school board members are organizing with activists in secret Facebook groups to create enemies lists and activists are openly calling for the silencing of opponents and firing of teachers.

This particular dummy just decided to martyr himself
Does anyone else know what "DMV" means in this context?

DC-Maryland-Virginia, increasingly the only place in the US that actually matters.

Re: Transgender Rights

Posted: Sat June 12, 2021 4:53 pm
by simple schoolboy
Bi_3 wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:Assuming most are unfamiliar with DMV area politics, so a bit of background:

https://www.loudountimes.com/news/teach ... dd342.html


You know it’s getting progressive in there when school board members are organizing with activists in secret Facebook groups to create enemies lists and activists are openly calling for the silencing of opponents and firing of teachers.

This particular dummy just decided to martyr himself
Does anyone else know what "DMV" means in this context?

DC-Maryland-Virginia, increasingly the only place in the US that actually matters.
Ah, Federal employees and contractors land.

Edit:

If its the only place that matters in the US, shouldn't we be more familiar with your newly invented acronyms?

Re: Transgender Rights

Posted: Mon June 14, 2021 1:15 pm
by Bi_3


Truly this is clown world

Re: Transgender Rights

Posted: Fri June 18, 2021 11:45 pm
by Green Habit
We going to see Masterpiece Cakeshop II at SCOTUS a couple years from now?

Re: Transgender Rights

Posted: Sun June 20, 2021 6:39 pm
by Bi_3
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/tavi ... -tz8cs77p3

.... A gay psychologist who worked a ... ......


I can see where this could be argued as anti-trans, but it never occurred to me these treatments could be viewed as "a boy who likes boys being medically transitioned to a girl who likes boys is 'transing the gay away' ".

Re: Transgender Rights

Posted: Mon June 21, 2021 1:04 am
by B
So, what did the tribunal find? Were they transitioning gay kids or not?

Re: Transgender Rights

Posted: Mon June 21, 2021 1:50 am
by simple schoolboy
Bi_3 wrote:https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/tavi ... -tz8cs77p3

.... A gay psychologist who worked a ... ......


I can see where this could be argued as anti-trans, but it never occurred to me these treatments could be viewed as "a boy who likes boys being medically transitioned to a girl who likes boys is 'transing the gay away' ".
This is what they do in Iran. You can be trans but you can't be gay.

Re: Transgender Rights

Posted: Mon June 21, 2021 5:35 am
by simple schoolboy
B wrote:So, what did the tribunal find? Were they transitioning gay kids or not?
How on earth would we know? Self reporting only seems to be seen as valid if it goes a particular direction.

Re: Transgender Rights

Posted: Mon June 21, 2021 7:32 pm
by Bi_3
simple schoolboy wrote:
B wrote:So, what did the tribunal find? Were they transitioning gay kids or not?
How on earth would we know? Self reporting only seems to be seen as valid if it goes a particular direction.
To be fair, Tavistock is a special case… but it is also at the forefront of the debate and recently lost a major lawsuit over medically transitioning people under 16.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/202 ... ldren-gids

Re: Transgender Rights

Posted: Mon June 21, 2021 10:12 pm
by verb_to_trust
You guys see that hot Olympic power lifter from New Zealand?

Re: Transgender Rights

Posted: Fri July 02, 2021 5:16 pm
by surfndestroy
Honest questions, as I just can't figure this out and I want to understand. A WNBA player has come out as non-binary and trans. Can one be non-binary and trans? Isn't being trans selecting a binary status?

What is a trans male doing playing in a league for women?

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/entertainment ... d=msedgntp

Re: Transgender Rights

Posted: Fri July 02, 2021 6:05 pm
by McParadigm
surfndestroy wrote:Honest questions, as I just can't figure this out and I want to understand. A WNBA player has come out as non-binary and trans. Can one be non-binary and trans? Isn't being trans selecting a binary status?
Wikipedia wrote: Non-binary (also spelled nonbinary) or genderqueer is an umbrella term for gender identities that are neither male nor female‍—‌identities that are outside the gender binary.[1][2] Non-binary identities fall under the transgender umbrella, since non-binary people typically identify with a gender that is different from their assigned sex,[2] though some non-binary individuals do not consider themselves transgender.

Non-binary people may identify as having two or more genders (being bigender or trigender);[5][6] having no gender (agender, nongendered, genderless, genderfree); moving between genders or having a fluctuating gender identity (genderfluid)
What is a trans male doing playing in a league for women?
Enjoying broad support from association management, fans, and fellow players, apparently.