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Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 10:40 pm
by Birds in Hell
broken iris wrote:
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote: I doubt they are gonna give me ga tickets just because they want to fill it first
I think there was evidence this was done several times.
If you requested GA at any preference, and there's still sufficient GA tickets remaining once everyone who placed GA at a higher preference than you has been allocated tickets, it's my understanding that you will be given GA tickets first in every instance (unless they've changed the way they administer the drawing) even if you had placed a reserved request at a higher preference.

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 10:46 pm
by Dr. Van Nostrand
Birds in Hell wrote:
broken iris wrote:
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote: I doubt they are gonna give me ga tickets just because they want to fill it first
I think there was evidence this was done several times.
If you requested GA at any preference, and there's still sufficient GA tickets remaining once everyone who placed GA at a higher preference than you has been allocated tickets, it's my understanding that you will be given GA tickets first in every instance (unless they've changed the way they administer the drawing) even if you had placed a reserved request at a higher preference.
And why are people thinking that? i think the simple less reserved tickets then the demand makes more sense

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 10:49 pm
by jdopj
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:
broken iris wrote:
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote: I doubt they are gonna give me ga tickets just because they want to fill it first
I think there was evidence this was done several times.
If you requested GA at any preference, and there's still sufficient GA tickets remaining once everyone who placed GA at a higher preference than you has been allocated tickets, it's my understanding that you will be given GA tickets first in every instance (unless they've changed the way they administer the drawing) even if you had placed a reserved request at a higher preference.
And why are people thinking that? i think the simple less reserved tickets then the demand makes more sense
Spenno is right.

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 10:56 pm
by jdopj
Sorry Doc, let me elaborate.
Fall tour:
SD res
Phx res
Sd GA
Phx GA
Got Sd res, Phx GA

Tour buddy
Sd Res
Phx Res
Sd Ga


He got Sd res, Phx Res
Because he didn't list GA they gave him Res for Phx. If you choose both and they need to fill GA, you will get GA regardless of priority. That's how it was explained to me and it happened that way for many others.

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 11:05 pm
by Dr. Van Nostrand
But that isn't something the fan club has admitted to? Im not really worried about it because we decided to give ga a shot this year so ga for both shows isn't upsetting at all, i just feel like this is conspiracy theory stuff and bad luck, but if the fan club has admitted to it then ill adjust my requests on the next tour

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 11:07 pm
by Birds in Hell
It's no conspiracy theory, 10C have just done a poor job explaining how they assign tickets.

We went over this a great deal last year, what I've described above is definitely how it actually works regardless of how much sense it makes on first glance.

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 11:08 pm
by CopperTom
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:But that isn't something the fan club has admitted to? Im not really worried about it because we decided to give ga a shot this year so ga for both shows isn't upsetting at all, i just feel like this is conspiracy theory stuff and bad luck, but if the fan club has admitted to it then ill adjust my requests on the next tour
The methodology described here explains 99% of the results. It's not head scratching if you accept it.

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 11:10 pm
by Dr. Van Nostrand
CopperTom wrote:
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:But that isn't something the fan club has admitted to? Im not really worried about it because we decided to give ga a shot this year so ga for both shows isn't upsetting at all, i just feel like this is conspiracy theory stuff and bad luck, but if the fan club has admitted to it then ill adjust my requests on the next tour
The methodology described here explains 99% of the results. It's not head scratching if you accept it.
I guess. either way, it is what it is

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 11:17 pm
by datfly
Fan club member for 17 years - SHUT OUT of all 10 shows. FUCK.

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 11:19 pm
by hlniv
Tom & Iris - when did you submit your entries? I'm still waiting... but i didn't make my selection until a couple hours befoer the deadline this morning.

From the PIT, looks like they're up to notifying people that entered through yesterday morning.

People that submitted last night and today are still waiting

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 11:26 pm
by CopperTom
hlniv wrote:Tom & Iris - when did you submit your entries? I'm still waiting... but i didn't make my selection until a couple hours befoer the deadline this morning.

From the PIT, looks like they're up to notifying people that entered through yesterday morning.

People that submitted last night and today are still waiting
I originally submitted day 1. I revised on Friday or Saturday.

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 11:28 pm
by CopperTom
datfly wrote:Fan club member for 17 years - SHUT OUT of all 10 shows. FUCK.
How? Lincoln, Tulsa and Memphis reserved odds were close to 99%.

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 11:31 pm
by broken iris
hlniv wrote:Tom & Iris - when did you submit your entries? I'm still waiting... but i didn't make my selection until a couple hours befoer the deadline this morning.

From the PIT, looks like they're up to notifying people that entered through yesterday morning.

People that submitted last night and today are still waiting

Originally submitted evening of the 21st, revised and updated payment info on the 25th.

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 11:31 pm
by CopperTom
Birds in Hell wrote:It's no conspiracy theory, 10C have just done a poor job explaining how they assign tickets.

We went over this a great deal last year, what I've described above is definitely how it actually works regardless of how much sense it makes on first glance.
I want to give Spenno some props. After he explained the GA before Reserved logic, his methodology looked pretty damn perfect. As a result, I dropped Tulsa GA entirely to ensure I got reserved seats for me and my friend (who couldn't stand that long).

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 11:42 pm
by jdopj
Henry, I don't think when you submitted matters. I picked on Sunday and got mine back already. Picked my wife's on Tuesday, got hers back shortly after.

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 11:48 pm
by bond
No Denver tickets for me :(((((( I am very sad.

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 11:52 pm
by hlniv
jdopj wrote:Henry, I don't think when you submitted matters. I picked on Sunday and got mine back already. Picked my wife's on Tuesday, got hers back shortly after.
Yes it does. Not many people submitted between Sunday and Tuesday I guess. I think they're finally up to this morning on the notifications.... everyone should know soon.

I'm still waiting...

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 11:59 pm
by delanoche
I submitted at 11:00 Central Time last night and just got mine back.

1. St Paul GA LOST
2. St. Paul Reserved WON
3. Lincoln GA WON
4. Lincoln Reserved LOST

Can't really complain. Must've been a lot of people going for St. Paul GA as a 1st priority.

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Thu May 29, 2014 12:03 am
by delanoche
Friend who also submitted at 11:00 PM CDT last night just got hers:

1. St. Paul GA WON
2. Moline GA LOST
3. St. Paul Reserved LOST
4. Moline Reserved LOST

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Thu May 29, 2014 12:08 am
by tooch
I know a lot of people are big on how fair this is, and i don't know if DatFly is kidding, but i tried for every show but Lincoln and LOST EVERY ONE. member since 93. I'm sorry CopperTom and everyone else, but the ten club can go fuck themselves. Never once, in the old system, have been shut out, and i live in chicago which is as big as it gets as far as demand