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Is this the Joey Votto thread now?

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Buster Posey?

Nah.

Maybe the NCAA HoF

I'm not arguing for or against Pujols in the HOF--he's undoubtedly in, I argued in the MLB thread pre-season thay he's surely the best player of his generation--but it's wild how his career is split in half by the numbers.

Pujols is 47th all time in OPS (.921, between Piazza and Snider), but his OPS for his first 11 seasons (all in STL) was 1.037, which would've been good for 6th all time (between Foxx and Hank Greenberg). His OPS in LAA was .758; player comps at that range are Jaboy Ellsbury and Juan Encarnarcion.

Would Pujols have been a HOFer if he retired at 32?

without looking at his numbers, is this basically the same “overly dominant in a moderately short period of time” question?

i’d lean yes if so

lennytheweedwhacker wrote:without looking at his numbers, is this basically the same “overly dominant in a moderately short period of time” question?

i’d lean yes if so

I mean, I don't think 11 years is a small sample size. He already had ~450 HRs, the 1+ OPS, 86 WAR (which is basically 86% of his career total), 2000 hits, basically had a 3:2 BB to K ratio, 3 MVPs, 10x AS...that's a whole career worth of numbers.

Simple Torture wrote:

lennytheweedwhacker wrote:without looking at his numbers, is this basically the same “overly dominant in a moderately short period of time” question?

i’d lean yes if so

I mean, I don't think 11 years is a small sample size. He already had ~450 HRs, the 1+ OPS, 86 WAR (which is basically 86% of his career total), 2000 hits, basically had a 3:2 BB to K ratio, 3 MVPs, 10x AS...that's a whole career worth of numbers.

then yes no doubt

lennytheweedwhacker wrote:

Simple Torture wrote:

lennytheweedwhacker wrote:without looking at his numbers, is this basically the same “overly dominant in a moderately short period of time” question?

i’d lean yes if so

I mean, I don't think 11 years is a small sample size. He already had ~450 HRs, the 1+ OPS, 86 WAR (which is basically 86% of his career total), 2000 hits, basically had a 3:2 BB to K ratio, 3 MVPs, 10x AS...that's a whole career worth of numbers.

then yes no doubt

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Simple Torture wrote:Would Pujols have been a HOFer if he retired at 32?

yes

Norris wrote:

Simple Torture wrote:Would Pujols have been a HOFer if he retired at 32?

yes

because he was actually 40

Simple Torture wrote:

lennytheweedwhacker wrote:without looking at his numbers, is this basically the same “overly dominant in a moderately short period of time” question?

i’d lean yes if so

I mean, I don't think 11 years is a small sample size. He already had ~450 HRs, the 1+ OPS, 86 WAR (which is basically 86% of his career total), 2000 hits, basically had a 3:2 BB to K ratio, 3 MVPs, 10x AS...that's a whole career worth of numbers.

Top 40 all-time HRs plus consideration on how shortened career affected hit total-yes, absolutely.

But it is interesting to see how quickly he fell off once he turned 32/35.

indeed…miggy’s decline hasn’t been as drastic, until the last two years

Charlie Morton (for pitching with a broken leg)?