Re: Election 2016
Posted: Thu November 03, 2016 11:58 pm
Things will probably level off going into the finish, but that nose dive was pretty steep.



BurtReynolds wrote:Anyone who thinks you can vote by text probably shouldn't have the right to vote anyway.
They semi-correlate with those events, as well as some of the bigger Trump scandals.Self wrote:Are those bubbles from the debates?
It actually looks to be produced almost exclusively by a normalization trend. And candidates nearly always experience a small rebound 2 to 3 weeks after a scandal hits (see: the same fucking graph).BurtReynolds wrote:Things will probably level off going into the finish, but that nose dive was pretty steep.
Yeah, and the only place they converge is the Republican Convention.McParadigm wrote:They semi-correlate with those events, as well as some of the bigger Trump scandals.Self wrote:Are those bubbles from the debates?
The exposure of the disgusting corruption that has long been suspected certainly has some people upset. But there is a big jump from "angry brietbart comments section guy" to armed insurrection. I'm sure CNN will be terribly disappointedbune wrote:Like I would stop to check a monkey's skirt.BurtReynolds wrote:Was the monkey male or female? And yes, it matters.
You mean like the last three elections that had everyone promising something big is coming?Bi_3 wrote:It's going to be funny when nothing happens but temporary stock fluctuations.
I'd agree with you but the events happening this cycle seem angrier than usual. Even more so than when the "angry black man" ran and won twice.
If there was a time for Assange to exercise some discretion, this was fucking it. What a gigantic, attention-whoring twat.McParadigm wrote:Absent from all of this is any discussion about the cost of this to Wikileaks. Historically, their supporters in the US trended young and college educated. Tech workers in particular skewed more favorable than the average.
These are groups that are, in general, supporting the candidate they are currently pursuing.
I'm more concerned with what trump is capable of (or incapable of ) if he becomes presidentBi_3 wrote:The exposure of the disgusting corruption that has long been suspected certainly has some people upset. But there is a big jump from "angry brietbart comments section guy" to armed insurrection. I'm sure CNN will be terribly disappointedbune wrote:Like I would stop to check a monkey's skirt.BurtReynolds wrote:Was the monkey male or female? And yes, it matters.
You mean like the last three elections that had everyone promising something big is coming?Bi_3 wrote:It's going to be funny when nothing happens but temporary stock fluctuations.
I'd agree with you but the events happening this cycle seem angrier than usual. Even more so than when the "angry black man" ran and won twice.

The ironic thing is for the Wikileaks e-mails to work, many of the 'scandals' are predicated upon people not actually reading the e-mails. There was one I read today where WikiLeaks framed it as a reporter asking for 'permission' from the Clinton campaign to run a story. Anyone who takes 30 seconds to read the e-mail will see that it's the reporter asking the campaign for comment on a story. Now, I'm not saying Wikileaks' strategy is bad; most cable television is based on the idea that people won't look too closely beyond the headline. But it's still pretty ironic for Assange to be applying those same moves.Bob Loblaw wrote:If there was a time for Assange to exercise some discretion, this was fucking it. What a gigantic, attention-whoring twat.McParadigm wrote:Absent from all of this is any discussion about the cost of this to Wikileaks. Historically, their supporters in the US trended young and college educated. Tech workers in particular skewed more favorable than the average.
These are groups that are, in general, supporting the candidate they are currently pursuing.
You bring up a good point: at what point does the lack of major revelation in these emails start to turn around and get perceived as a refutation of all the Clinton conspiracy silliness? Not among Trump supporters, of course. But the other 60% of the nation.digster wrote:The ironic thing is for the Wikileaks e-mails to work, many of the 'scandals' are predicated upon people not actually reading the e-mails. There was one I read today where WikiLeaks framed it as a reporter asking for 'permission' from the Clinton campaign to run a story. Anyone who takes 30 seconds to read the e-mail will see that it's the reporter asking the campaign for comment on a story. Now, I'm not saying Wikileaks' strategy is bad; most cable television is based on the idea that people won't look too closely beyond the headline. But it's still pretty ironic for Assange to be applying those same moves.Bob Loblaw wrote:If there was a time for Assange to exercise some discretion, this was fucking it. What a gigantic, attention-whoring twat.McParadigm wrote:Absent from all of this is any discussion about the cost of this to Wikileaks. Historically, their supporters in the US trended young and college educated. Tech workers in particular skewed more favorable than the average.
These are groups that are, in general, supporting the candidate they are currently pursuing.
It's honestly a strange move for Assange to have gone so all-in on one candidate. As McParadigm said, this really does nothing for him in the future. Prior to this, Assange was viewed, for whatever faults he had, as not being pinned in by a partisan agenda. The truth of the e-mails aside, it's hard to argue that there hasn't been one now.
Assange's motivation for going after Clinton must be personal, at least to an extent, if he sees her as complicit with the Obama administration that launched a criminal investigation against him.McParadigm wrote:You bring up a good point: at what point does the lack of major revelation in these emails start to turn around and get perceived as a refutation of all the Clinton conspiracy silliness? Not among Trump supporters, of course. But the other 60% of the nation.digster wrote:The ironic thing is for the Wikileaks e-mails to work, many of the 'scandals' are predicated upon people not actually reading the e-mails. There was one I read today where WikiLeaks framed it as a reporter asking for 'permission' from the Clinton campaign to run a story. Anyone who takes 30 seconds to read the e-mail will see that it's the reporter asking the campaign for comment on a story. Now, I'm not saying Wikileaks' strategy is bad; most cable television is based on the idea that people won't look too closely beyond the headline. But it's still pretty ironic for Assange to be applying those same moves.Bob Loblaw wrote:If there was a time for Assange to exercise some discretion, this was fucking it. What a gigantic, attention-whoring twat.McParadigm wrote:Absent from all of this is any discussion about the cost of this to Wikileaks. Historically, their supporters in the US trended young and college educated. Tech workers in particular skewed more favorable than the average.
These are groups that are, in general, supporting the candidate they are currently pursuing.
It's honestly a strange move for Assange to have gone so all-in on one candidate. As McParadigm said, this really does nothing for him in the future. Prior to this, Assange was viewed, for whatever faults he had, as not being pinned in by a partisan agenda. The truth of the e-mails aside, it's hard to argue that there hasn't been one now.
The stuff I'm seeing about his news network is stuff I've never considered: What if he is elected, and he still goes through with the network, and it turns into a state-sponsored deal. That's frightening.Strat wrote:I'm more concerned with what trump is capable of (or incapable of ) if he becomes presidentBi_3 wrote:The exposure of the disgusting corruption that has long been suspected certainly has some people upset. But there is a big jump from "angry brietbart comments section guy" to armed insurrection. I'm sure CNN will be terribly disappointedbune wrote:Like I would stop to check a monkey's skirt.BurtReynolds wrote:Was the monkey male or female? And yes, it matters.
You mean like the last three elections that had everyone promising something big is coming?Bi_3 wrote:It's going to be funny when nothing happens but temporary stock fluctuations.
I'd agree with you but the events happening this cycle seem angrier than usual. Even more so than when the "angry black man" ran and won twice.
I never understand those people who commit criminal acts and then marvel at everyone's interest in said acts. Like, really?Bob Loblaw wrote:Assange's motivation for going after Clinton must be personal, at least to an extent, if he sees her as complicit with the Obama administration that launched a criminal investigation against him.McParadigm wrote:You bring up a good point: at what point does the lack of major revelation in these emails start to turn around and get perceived as a refutation of all the Clinton conspiracy silliness? Not among Trump supporters, of course. But the other 60% of the nation.digster wrote:The ironic thing is for the Wikileaks e-mails to work, many of the 'scandals' are predicated upon people not actually reading the e-mails. There was one I read today where WikiLeaks framed it as a reporter asking for 'permission' from the Clinton campaign to run a story. Anyone who takes 30 seconds to read the e-mail will see that it's the reporter asking the campaign for comment on a story. Now, I'm not saying Wikileaks' strategy is bad; most cable television is based on the idea that people won't look too closely beyond the headline. But it's still pretty ironic for Assange to be applying those same moves.Bob Loblaw wrote:If there was a time for Assange to exercise some discretion, this was fucking it. What a gigantic, attention-whoring twat.McParadigm wrote:Absent from all of this is any discussion about the cost of this to Wikileaks. Historically, their supporters in the US trended young and college educated. Tech workers in particular skewed more favorable than the average.
These are groups that are, in general, supporting the candidate they are currently pursuing.
It's honestly a strange move for Assange to have gone so all-in on one candidate. As McParadigm said, this really does nothing for him in the future. Prior to this, Assange was viewed, for whatever faults he had, as not being pinned in by a partisan agenda. The truth of the e-mails aside, it's hard to argue that there hasn't been one now.
Unfortunately, my admittedly cyncial view of it is that even among that 60 percent, few will be going in for a close read. They'll hear 'Clinton' and 'e-mails' and won't bother to go forward. The scandal has become that the e-mails exist; I think the content is by and large irrelevant, which works to Trump's favor.McParadigm wrote: You bring up a good point: at what point does the lack of major revelation in these emails start to turn around and get perceived as a refutation of all the Clinton conspiracy silliness? Not among Trump supporters, of course. But the other 60% of the nation.