Gigaton: Official album thread

[McParadigm]

I would rather hear outtakes of them tuning their guitars from the Vitalogy sessions than completed unreleased LB trax

Too real

[joostone]

I would be stunned if they had enough worthwhile material for a "Lost Dogs 2," and it's probably to their credit that they haven't tried to release one. I'd suspect things like "Cold Confession" and "Let it Ride" are the exception.

Of the Earth, Ole. There's 4 right there with the two you mentioned. I'm sure they could drum up 12 more songs somewhere in their archives.

I'm sure they could put out something -- there are still a few tracks from 1991-2003 that could use a good home ("Sunburn," "Happy When I'm Crying," etc.), and I wouldn't discount a pleasant surprise or two, but I think a new rarities-type release would be exactly what you say: a lot of "drumming up." Beyond the few tracks that missed the original release, I can't help but think the 1991-2003 era is pretty much bled dry, and I can't imagine their log of "excess" material from the last fifteen years doesn't relatively mirror, in quality and quantity, their regular album output from the last fifteen years.

I'd love to be wrong, of course.

There's should be more than enough for another Lost Dogs. Even with what we know exists.

Known original songs (recorded/mentioned/leaked/released):

- Long Road [released]
- Angel [released]
- Leatherman [released]
- Cold Concession (ST sessions) (leaked)
- 2x4 (ST sessions) (leaked) [instr.]
- Let it Ride (ST sessions) (leaked)
- Chinese (demo) [leaked]
- Ole [released]
- Cant deny me [released]
- Leatherman II [mentioned]
- Of the Earth [played live] [released]
- Santa Cruz [released]
- Santa God [released]
- I'm Still Here [leaked]
- Last Soldier [played live] [mentioned]
- Sunburn (demo) [leaked]
- Outta My Mind [played live] [released]
- Happy When Im Crying [released]
- Olympic Platinum [released]
- Anything in Between [leaked][instr.]
-Turning Myst [released]
- Falling down [played live] [released]
- I Won't [mentioned]
- 10 billion years [leaked]
- Open door [leaked]
- Puzzles and Games (Light years demo) [leaked]
- Brother [released]
- Just a Girl [released]

Known cover songs (recorded/mentioned/leaked/released):

- Wishing well * [released]
- I've Got A Feeling * [released]
- Touch me Im Sick *[released]
- Don't Believe in Christmas * [released]
- Sonic Reducer * [released]
- Someday at Christmas * [released]
- Better Things * [released]
- Love Reign O’me * [released]
- Catholic Boys (PJ with Jim Carrol) [released]
- Owner of the Lonely Heart * [mentioned]
- Baba O’Riley * [mentioned]
- Crazy Mary [released]

[Anders]

Lost Dogs part two

1. Last Soldier
2. Cold Confession
3. Let It Ride
4. Anything In Between
5. I Got Shit
6. Of The Earth
7. Untitled (the LO2L song in studio)
8. State Of Love And Trust
9. Angel
10. Falling Down
11. Sunburn
12. Happy When I'm Crying
13. Out Of My Mind
14. Fuckin Up
15. Rockin' In The Free World

Side 2:
16. Acoustic #1
17. Chinese
18. Brother (with lyrics)
19. Olé
20. Leatherman
21. Just A Girl
22. Breath
23. Sonic Reducer
24. Better Things
25. Love Reign O'er Me
26. Man Of The Hour
27. 10 Billion Years
28. Santa Cruz
29. Turn The Corner
30. Crazy Mary
31. Long Road

[Kevin Davis]

Okay, I guess what I'm meaning to say is, I'd be surprised if there was much of interest left that we haven't heard. Yes, if they wanted to release a "Lost Dogs 2" just so they could have another way of repackaging "State of Love and Trust," "Breath," "Man of the Hour," etc., then they could get something out pretty easily. And yes, there is a lot of substandard crap like "Santa God" and "Turning Mist" and "Chinese" that they could include to pad out a release like this. Going back to my initial post, I think it is to their credit that they haven't done either of these things just for the sake of putting a product on the market.

The original "Lost Dogs," for all its annoying overdubs, retakes, and occasionally curious omissions, really cleared a pretty high bar as far as rarities albums go. It unearthed a number of high quality, finished "new" songs (the Binaural outtakes, "All Night," etc.), gave widespread release to things only previously available in limited format (the holiday singles), and put a lot of their other best-known B-sides in one place. And it told a story. I wish the recordings were all unedited originals, but in terms of the material it collects, in my opinion it's every bit the equal of the studio albums of the 1991-2003 era (and superior to the studio albums of the subsequent era) and a lovely way of tying a ribbon on their years with Epic.

A new career-spanning "Lost Dogs 2," assuming they could work out logistics of a release that contains both Epic and post-Epic material, would comprise (a) leftover material from 1991-2003 that didn't make the cut for a thirty-track release fifteen years ago, and (b) whatever is still in the can from 2004-2019, generally unproductive years that barely produced any actual released material, let alone an abundance of quality stray tracks. A lot of the songs listed previously are songs I really like ("Leatherman," "Happy When I'm Crying," "Angel," "Sunburn"), but I'm not surprised that Sony -- who to my knowledge still owns this material -- hasn't anchored a release around them in an era where album sales are bottoming out.

Not to say there isn't a right way to get some of that stuff out (a Complete Holiday Singles seems logical and inevitable, probably in Spotify playlist format), and again, I'd love to be wrong -- how awesome would it be if, like, eight more new, finished songs from the Irons years suddenly materialized? -- but I don't envision Sony sinking any of their increasingly dwindling resources into a Pearl Jam barrel-scrape release.

[Bammer]

Okay, I guess what I'm meaning to say is, I'd be surprised if there was much of interest left that we haven't heard. Yes, if they wanted to release a "Lost Dogs 2" just so they could have another way of repackaging "State of Love and Trust," "Breath," "Man of the Hour," etc., then they could get something out pretty easily. And yes, there is a lot of substandard crap like "Santa God" and "Turning Mist" and "Chinese" that they could include to pad out a release like this. Going back to my initial post, I think it is to their credit that they haven't done either of these things just for the sake of putting a product on the market.

The original "Lost Dogs," for all its annoying overdubs, retakes, and occasionally curious omissions, really cleared a pretty high bar as far as rarities albums go. It unearthed a number of high quality, finished "new" songs (the Binaural outtakes, "All Night," etc.), gave widespread release to things only previously available in limited format (the holiday singles), and put a lot of their other best-known B-sides in one place. And it told a story. I wish the recordings were all unedited originals, but in terms of the material it collects, in my opinion it's every bit the equal of the studio albums of the 1991-2003 era (and superior to the studio albums of the subsequent era) and a lovely way of tying a ribbon on their years with Epic.

A new career-spanning "Lost Dogs 2," assuming they could work out logistics of a release that contains both Epic and post-Epic material, would comprise (a) leftover material from 1991-2003 that didn't make the cut for a thirty-track release fifteen years ago, and (b) whatever is still in the can from 2004-2019, generally unproductive years that barely produced any actual released material, let alone an abundance of quality stray tracks. A lot of the songs listed previously are songs I really like ("Leatherman," "Happy When I'm Crying," "Angel," "Sunburn"), but I'm not surprised that Sony -- who to my knowledge still owns this material -- hasn't anchored a release around them in an era where album sales are bottoming out.

Not to say there isn't a right way to get some of that stuff out (a Complete Holiday Singles seems logical and inevitable, probably in Spotify playlist format), and again, I'd love to be wrong -- how awesome would it be if, like, eight more new, finished songs from the Irons years suddenly materialized? -- but I don't envision Sony sinking any of their increasingly dwindling resources into a Pearl Jam barrel-scrape release.

I think you’d see it differently if Anders hadn’t forgotten to include Cready Stomp

[McParadigm]

I love the idea of putting no less than four songs from your greatest hits record on a collection of rarities.

I honestly always assumed they only did this with Yellow Ledbetter out of pure forgetfulness.

[Anders]

Okay, I guess what I'm meaning to say is, I'd be surprised if there was much of interest left that we haven't heard. Yes, if they wanted to release a "Lost Dogs 2" just so they could have another way of repackaging "State of Love and Trust," "Breath," "Man of the Hour," etc., then they could get something out pretty easily. And yes, there is a lot of substandard crap like "Santa God" and "Turning Mist" and "Chinese" that they could include to pad out a release like this. Going back to my initial post, I think it is to their credit that they haven't done either of these things just for the sake of putting a product on the market.

The original "Lost Dogs," for all its annoying overdubs, retakes, and occasionally curious omissions, really cleared a pretty high bar as far as rarities albums go. It unearthed a number of high quality, finished "new" songs (the Binaural outtakes, "All Night," etc.), gave widespread release to things only previously available in limited format (the holiday singles), and put a lot of their other best-known B-sides in one place. And it told a story. I wish the recordings were all unedited originals, but in terms of the material it collects, in my opinion it's every bit the equal of the studio albums of the 1991-2003 era (and superior to the studio albums of the subsequent era) and a lovely way of tying a ribbon on their years with Epic.

A new career-spanning "Lost Dogs 2," assuming they could work out logistics of a release that contains both Epic and post-Epic material, would comprise (a) leftover material from 1991-2003 that didn't make the cut for a thirty-track release fifteen years ago, and (b) whatever is still in the can from 2004-2019, generally unproductive years that barely produced any actual released material, let alone an abundance of quality stray tracks. A lot of the songs listed previously are songs I really like ("Leatherman," "Happy When I'm Crying," "Angel," "Sunburn"), but I'm not surprised that Sony -- who to my knowledge still owns this material -- hasn't anchored a release around them in an era where album sales are bottoming out.

Not to say there isn't a right way to get some of that stuff out (a Complete Holiday Singles seems logical and inevitable, probably in Spotify playlist format), and again, I'd love to be wrong -- how awesome would it be if, like, eight more new, finished songs from the Irons years suddenly materialized? -- but I don't envision Sony sinking any of their increasingly dwindling resources into a Pearl Jam barrel-scrape release.

The Lost Dogs part 2 I listed above is about as good as Lost Dogs part 1, although Sad, Fatal, All Night and one or two others, were top tier Pearl Jam.

[Anders]

I love the idea of putting no less than four songs from your greatest hits record on a collection of rarities.

I honestly always assumed they only did this with Yellow Ledbetter out of pure forgetfulness.

Non album songs, makes sense to me. Shouldn’t need a greatest hits to have all the songs on albums.

[bodysnatcher]

You guys are forgetting "Betterman (Lives)"

The story of the better man after his wife leaves him, he becomes gravely depressed, decides to seek counseling for his current state and his past regrets, gets a new job that he's happy with, finally starts reading more, and is really turning his life around

[Captain Termite]

what the fuck throw Rodlease, Real Thing, and One Note on there too

[tragabigzanda]

pearl jam sucks now

[bodysnatcher]

They should just do a compendium album about traveling and have Tesla sponsor the tour.

Getaway
Go
Why Go
Off He Goes
Gone
Leaving Here
Gonna See My Friend
Evacuation
MFC
Rearviewmirror
Footsteps

Mike drives one, so it'd make sense

[oasisfan35]

You guys are forgetting "Betterman (Lives)"

The story of the better man after his wife leaves him, he becomes gravely depressed, decides to seek counseling for his current state and his past regrets, gets a new job that he's happy with, finally starts reading more, and is really turning his life around

As soon as EdVed commits to surfing full time this is basically his memoir, no?

[VinylGuy]

Whats Turn The Corner? Fucking Up and Rocking have studio versions?

[dprival78]

there has to be a studio version of 'falling down' kicking around somewhere

(and speaking of that, why haven't they played it live yet? we've gotten bugs, sweet lew, out of my mind.. let's go.)

[Bi_3]

there has to be a studio version of 'falling down' kicking around somewhere

(and speaking of that, why haven't they played it live yet? we've gotten bugs, sweet lew, out of my mind.. let's go.)

Gremmie and Whale Song

[dprival78]

there has to be a studio version of 'falling down' kicking around somewhere

(and speaking of that, why haven't they played it live yet? we've gotten bugs, sweet lew, out of my mind.. let's go.)

Gremmie and Whale Song

happy..

when i'm cryin'

[Bammer]

for as much as these guys (eddie) love stackin' those dollas.. how have they not at least put out another b-side album during this dry period?

it's an obvious win-win for everyone, no? band makes money, we get music - and, since it's music that would have been written years ago, it's probably pretty good.

How much money is there in releasing albums nowadays?

Serious question, not snark. Would a release like this represent a significant cash injection for the band?

No Pay

[Bi_3]

for as much as these guys (eddie) love stackin' those dollas.. how have they not at least put out another b-side album during this dry period?

it's an obvious win-win for everyone, no? band makes money, we get music - and, since it's music that would have been written years ago, it's probably pretty good.

How much money is there in releasing albums nowadays?

Serious question, not snark. Would a release like this represent a significant cash injection for the band?

No Pay

Ok Bammer

[96583UP]

there has to be a studio version of 'falling down' kicking around somewhere

(and speaking of that, why haven't they played it live yet? we've gotten bugs, sweet lew, out of my mind.. let's go.)

probably because it is about killing his unborn child which he probably regrets at this point