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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Thu December 19, 2019 2:32 pm
by McParadigm
Now THIS is bad review pod racing. Posted for perspective.

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Thu December 19, 2019 4:19 pm
by tree_
It's cool to not like SW now and for good reasons. Disney usurped a beloved property, thinking they could purchase nostalgia and spoon feed it to the masses. Well, "can't buy me love". There's no good or original idea in these films. Just recycled shit.

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Thu December 19, 2019 4:21 pm
by tree_
It's a ridiculous idea, really. Imagine if Disney chose to purchase, say, Pulp Fiction from Tarantino and make sequels. What would those movies look like? At that point, it's not Pulp Fiction anymore and this isn't SW anymore.

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Thu December 19, 2019 4:23 pm
by dimejinky99
A clip / special look


Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Thu December 19, 2019 4:31 pm
by Monkey_Driven
tree_ wrote:It's cool to not like SW now and for good reasons. Disney usurped a beloved property, thinking they could purchase nostalgia and spoon feed it to the masses. Well, "can't buy me love". There's no good or original idea in these films. Just recycled shit.
This isn't true.

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Thu December 19, 2019 4:32 pm
by tree_
Monkey_Driven wrote:
tree_ wrote:It's cool to not like SW now and for good reasons. Disney usurped a beloved property, thinking they could purchase nostalgia and spoon feed it to the masses. Well, "can't buy me love". There's no good or original idea in these films. Just recycled shit.
This isn't true.
Can you name any?

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Thu December 19, 2019 4:34 pm
by Strat
tree_ wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:
tree_ wrote:It's cool to not like SW now and for good reasons. Disney usurped a beloved property, thinking they could purchase nostalgia and spoon feed it to the masses. Well, "can't buy me love". There's no good or original idea in these films. Just recycled shit.
This isn't true.
Can you name any?
The humanizing of a defected stormtrooper

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Thu December 19, 2019 4:34 pm
by bune
tree_ wrote:It's a ridiculous idea, really. Imagine if Disney chose to purchase, say, Pulp Fiction from Tarantino and make sequels. What would those movies look like? At that point, it's not Pulp Fiction anymore and this isn't SW anymore.
Disney already owns Pulp Fiction though?

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Thu December 19, 2019 4:36 pm
by tree_
Strat wrote:
tree_ wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:
tree_ wrote:It's cool to not like SW now and for good reasons. Disney usurped a beloved property, thinking they could purchase nostalgia and spoon feed it to the masses. Well, "can't buy me love". There's no good or original idea in these films. Just recycled shit.
This isn't true.
Can you name any?
The humanizing of a defected stormtrooper
But he's not even a developed character. This could have been something interesting.

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Thu December 19, 2019 4:38 pm
by Monkey_Driven
tree_ wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:
tree_ wrote:It's cool to not like SW now and for good reasons. Disney usurped a beloved property, thinking they could purchase nostalgia and spoon feed it to the masses. Well, "can't buy me love". There's no good or original idea in these films. Just recycled shit.
This isn't true.
Can you name any?
-The decision to end the Jedi order
-A female force user as the lead
-Exploration of the gray area of Force users on film
-A more diverse cast in general

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Thu December 19, 2019 4:42 pm
by tree_
Monkey_Driven wrote:
tree_ wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:
tree_ wrote:It's cool to not like SW now and for good reasons. Disney usurped a beloved property, thinking they could purchase nostalgia and spoon feed it to the masses. Well, "can't buy me love". There's no good or original idea in these films. Just recycled shit.
This isn't true.
Can you name any?
-The decision to end the Jedi order
-A female force user as the lead
-Exploration of the gray area of Force users on film
-A more diverse cast in general
Wasn't the Jedi order pretty much over with anyway? By the end of the OT, there was only Luke, right? Now there's only Rey? What's the difference?
A female lead is nothing new or original. There have been females using the force in the prequels.
I don't see how gray area of force using is anything special or interesting in these movies.
Diversity in cast is cool, but it's nothing new in movies in general these days.

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Thu December 19, 2019 4:43 pm
by Jorge
bune wrote:
tree_ wrote:It's a ridiculous idea, really. Imagine if Disney chose to purchase, say, Pulp Fiction from Tarantino and make sequels. What would those movies look like? At that point, it's not Pulp Fiction anymore and this isn't SW anymore.
Disney already owns Pulp Fiction though?
I wasn't sure if that's a joke he was trying to make but yeah

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Thu December 19, 2019 4:44 pm
by tree_
theplatypus wrote:
bune wrote:
tree_ wrote:It's a ridiculous idea, really. Imagine if Disney chose to purchase, say, Pulp Fiction from Tarantino and make sequels. What would those movies look like? At that point, it's not Pulp Fiction anymore and this isn't SW anymore.
Disney already owns Pulp Fiction though?
I wasn't sure if that's a joke he was trying to make but yeah
I honestly didn't even realize this. Well, at least they're not making sequels/prequels.

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Thu December 19, 2019 4:46 pm
by bune
part of that is because it's not a franchise, Star Wars is. if there was a large enough contingent of fans asking for 'what's actually in the briefcase' then you'd see that prequel.

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Thu December 19, 2019 4:48 pm
by Monkey_Driven
tree_ wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:
tree_ wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:
tree_ wrote:It's cool to not like SW now and for good reasons. Disney usurped a beloved property, thinking they could purchase nostalgia and spoon feed it to the masses. Well, "can't buy me love". There's no good or original idea in these films. Just recycled shit.
This isn't true.
Can you name any?
-The decision to end the Jedi order
-A female force user as the lead
-Exploration of the gray area of Force users on film
-A more diverse cast in general
Wasn't the Jedi order pretty much over with anyway? By the end of the OT, there was only Luke, right? Now there's only Rey? What's the difference?
A female lead is nothing new or original. There have been females using the force in the prequels.
I don't see how gray area of force using is anything special or interesting in these movies.
Diversity in cast is cool, but it's nothing new in movies in general these days.
- Luke made a decision to end the order rather than someone else destroying it.
- Name two. And not a lead though. This is a very big thing for the series.
- That is your opinion.
- It is for the series. It's making these movies for the a new generation of people.

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Thu December 19, 2019 4:50 pm
by tree_
bune wrote:part of that is because it's not a franchise, Star Wars is. if there was a large enough contingent of fans asking for 'what's actually in the briefcase' then you'd see that prequel.
But this new trilogy doesn't answer any burning questions anyone needed answers to. What happened with Luke, Leia, and Han in their old age turned out to not be interesting, so who cares?

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Thu December 19, 2019 4:55 pm
by Monkey_Driven
tree_ wrote:
bune wrote:part of that is because it's not a franchise, Star Wars is. if there was a large enough contingent of fans asking for 'what's actually in the briefcase' then you'd see that prequel.
But this new trilogy doesn't answer any burning questions anyone needed answers to. What happened with Luke, Leia, and Han in their old age turned out to not be interesting, so who cares?
I find their older selves very interesting. Your stating your opinions as facts.

Did you feel the same way about the Prequels with Lucas making them? We knew most of the major story beats there too.

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Thu December 19, 2019 4:59 pm
by tree_
Monkey_Driven wrote:
tree_ wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:
tree_ wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:
tree_ wrote:It's cool to not like SW now and for good reasons. Disney usurped a beloved property, thinking they could purchase nostalgia and spoon feed it to the masses. Well, "can't buy me love". There's no good or original idea in these films. Just recycled shit.
This isn't true.
Can you name any?
-The decision to end the Jedi order
-A female force user as the lead
-Exploration of the gray area of Force users on film
-A more diverse cast in general
Wasn't the Jedi order pretty much over with anyway? By the end of the OT, there was only Luke, right? Now there's only Rey? What's the difference?
A female lead is nothing new or original. There have been females using the force in the prequels.
I don't see how gray area of force using is anything special or interesting in these movies.
Diversity in cast is cool, but it's nothing new in movies in general these days.
- Luke made a decision to end the order rather than someone else destroying it.
- Name two. And not a lead though. This is a very big thing for the series.
- That is your opinion.
- It is for the series. It's making these movies for the a new generation of people.
He ultimately didn't, though.
For the series, sure. But there are other movies with plenty of interesting female characters. SW is doing nothing new.
It is. I don't find these movies the least bit interesting.
Why does this series matter, though? There are plenty of other, more interesting movies.

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Thu December 19, 2019 5:00 pm
by tree_
Monkey_Driven wrote:
tree_ wrote:
bune wrote:part of that is because it's not a franchise, Star Wars is. if there was a large enough contingent of fans asking for 'what's actually in the briefcase' then you'd see that prequel.
But this new trilogy doesn't answer any burning questions anyone needed answers to. What happened with Luke, Leia, and Han in their old age turned out to not be interesting, so who cares?
I find their older selves very interesting. Your stating your opinions as facts.

Did you feel the same way about the Prequels with Lucas making them? We knew most of the major story beats there too.
All we have is subjective opinion. I'm telling you why I can't enjoy these movies. The prequels are steaming piles of garbage.

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Thu December 19, 2019 5:02 pm
by Monkey_Driven
tree_ wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:
tree_ wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:
tree_ wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:
tree_ wrote:It's cool to not like SW now and for good reasons. Disney usurped a beloved property, thinking they could purchase nostalgia and spoon feed it to the masses. Well, "can't buy me love". There's no good or original idea in these films. Just recycled shit.
This isn't true.
Can you name any?
-The decision to end the Jedi order
-A female force user as the lead
-Exploration of the gray area of Force users on film
-A more diverse cast in general
Wasn't the Jedi order pretty much over with anyway? By the end of the OT, there was only Luke, right? Now there's only Rey? What's the difference?
A female lead is nothing new or original. There have been females using the force in the prequels.
I don't see how gray area of force using is anything special or interesting in these movies.
Diversity in cast is cool, but it's nothing new in movies in general these days.
- Luke made a decision to end the order rather than someone else destroying it.
- Name two. And not a lead though. This is a very big thing for the series.
- That is your opinion.
- It is for the series. It's making these movies for the a new generation of people.
He ultimately didn't, though.
For the series, sure. But there are other movies with plenty of interesting female characters. SW is doing nothing new.
It is. I don't find these movies the least bit interesting.
Why does this series matter, though? There are plenty of other, more interesting movies.
Why does any movie exist? How many are released now that are truly original?