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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII: The Last Jedi -spoilers start 3
Posted: Tue December 19, 2017 9:29 pm
by stip
dimejinky99 wrote:stip wrote:dimejinky99 wrote:OH god.
The red letter media review is out and the TLJ hate brigade are using it as their new favourite argument.
Ugh.
what did they say?
They hate it. ‘But they’d have a well thought out articulate argument about WHY ITS THE WORST FILM EVER MADE!’
Apparently
Slightly disappointing but not all together surprising. They are slavishly devoted to a certain idea of what Star Wars is
Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII: The Last Jedi -spoilers start 3
Posted: Tue December 19, 2017 9:30 pm
by epilogue
Rian did a Q&A after a screening in LA and was asked specifically about Rey's parentage.
Basically, Rian said he wrote down every possible parent idea he could think of: Obi-Wan, Luke, Han & Leia, Snoke, Plagueous, Palpatine and on and on. He tried to play out how all of these would go and he ultimately decided that the best possible/most satisfying and appropriate option was for her parents to be "no one special" because it presented an obstacle for Rey to overcome.
Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII: The Last Jedi -spoilers start 3
Posted: Tue December 19, 2017 9:30 pm
by epilogue
stip wrote:VinylGuy wrote:Joe is getting anxious with all these opinions.
No one is arguing with your opinions. We are arguing with your apparent fundamental misunderstanding of the text
It’s the difference between not liking betterman because you don’t care for the melody and not liking betterman because you think it’s an upbeat affirmation of two people’s enduring love
What Stip said.
Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII: The Last Jedi -spoilers start 3
Posted: Tue December 19, 2017 9:32 pm
by stip
stip wrote:dimejinky99 wrote:stip wrote:dimejinky99 wrote:OH god.
The red letter media review is out and the TLJ hate brigade are using it as their new favourite argument.
Ugh.
what did they say?
They hate it. ‘But they’d have a well thought out articulate argument about WHY ITS THE WORST FILM EVER MADE!’
Apparently
Slightly disappointing but not all together surprising. They are slavishly devoted to a certain idea of what Star Wars is
Having said that - I’ll watch his eventual video. I Can’t stand his sidekicks on the review show, though. They are never insightful and walking embodiments of nerd fanboy destructive privelage
Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII: The Last Jedi -spoilers start 3
Posted: Tue December 19, 2017 9:32 pm
by stip
Speaking of....DID KEVIN SMITH LIKE IT?!
Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII: The Last Jedi -spoilers start 3
Posted: Tue December 19, 2017 9:33 pm
by VinylGuy
stip wrote:VinylGuy wrote:Joe is getting anxious with all these opinions.
No one is arguing with your opinions. We are arguing with your apparent fundamental misunderstanding of the text
It’s the difference between not liking betterman because you don’t care for the melody and not liking betterman because you think it’s an upbeat affirmation of two people’s enduring love
Well, i feel i have a stronger point that what you say with the betterman comparison...but maybe yeah, im wayy off !!!
Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII: The Last Jedi -spoilers start 3
Posted: Tue December 19, 2017 9:33 pm
by Strat
Why should I care what red letter media says?
Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII: The Last Jedi -spoilers start 3
Posted: Tue December 19, 2017 9:34 pm
by Strat
stip wrote:Speaking of....DID KEVIN SMITH LIKE IT?!
http://comicbook.com/starwars/2017/12/1 ... vin-smith/
Haven't watched yet.
Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII: The Last Jedi -spoilers start 3
Posted: Tue December 19, 2017 9:35 pm
by epilogue
stip wrote:Speaking of....DID KEVIN SMITH LIKE IT?!

Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII: The Last Jedi -spoilers start 3
Posted: Tue December 19, 2017 9:42 pm
by dimejinky99
Gonna take a punt and say he hates it cos he wasn’t given a cameo in it.
Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII: The Last Jedi -spoilers start 3
Posted: Tue December 19, 2017 9:45 pm
by stip
I thought you were saying he hasn't watched it yet, and on no planet in any galaxy at any time is that the case
Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII: The Last Jedi -spoilers start 3
Posted: Tue December 19, 2017 9:48 pm
by Strat
stip wrote:
I thought you were saying he hasn't watched it yet, and on no planet in any galaxy at any time is that the case
lol!
Yea. Anyone get the gist of it?
Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII: The Last Jedi -spoilers start 3
Posted: Tue December 19, 2017 9:49 pm
by epilogue
Strat wrote:stip wrote:
I thought you were saying he hasn't watched it yet, and on no planet in any galaxy at any time is that the case
lol!
Yea. Anyone get the gist of it?
He thinks the film is Oscar worthy.
Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII: The Last Jedi -spoilers start 3
Posted: Tue December 19, 2017 10:04 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Did Mr. Plinkett review this yet
Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII: The Last Jedi -spoilers start 3
Posted: Tue December 19, 2017 10:07 pm
by stip
yes, but not as plinkett
Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII: The Last Jedi -spoilers start 3
Posted: Tue December 19, 2017 10:08 pm
by LoathedVermin72
stip wrote:yes, but not as plinkett
Then NO
Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII: The Last Jedi -spoilers start 3
Posted: Tue December 19, 2017 10:18 pm
by Sgt. Crackpot
durdencommatyler wrote:Rian did a Q&A after a screening in LA and was asked specifically about Rey's parentage.
Basically, Rian said he wrote down every possible parent idea he could think of: Obi-Wan, Luke, Han & Leia, Snoke, Plagueous, Palpatine and on and on. He tried to play out how all of these would go and he ultimately decided that the best possible/most satisfying and appropriate option was for her parents to be "no one special" because it presented an obstacle for Rey to overcome.
So this was my post from August:
http://forums.theskyiscrape.com/viewtop ... 85#p984785
Sgt. Crackpot wrote:I hate the fact that it seems the movies are now becoming less of a progression of the story, and an expansion of the universe, and more of a thrill for the directors/writes to have:
- Have someone related to somebody. i.e. One of the key good guys is related to one of the bad guys. And someone is the descendant of someone.
- Kill someone off.
Star Wars makers, stop trying to find links and kill off people to try to gain shock value. We had the brilliant "No, I am your father" moment in the past. Stop trying to recreate that moment.
Please, just tell great stories, with lots of pew pews and gold bikinis.
I'm so glad that Rian took this path in regards to Rey's parents. I hope JJ sticks with it through EP IX.
On another note, while Rian killed off Luke - he did it in such an amazing and unexpected way. Only when we see Luke fade, was when I realised what was happening. A sad but amazing moment.
I fucking love Rian for what he did with some of these aspects.
Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII: The Last Jedi -spoilers start 3
Posted: Tue December 19, 2017 10:20 pm
by Sgt. Crackpot
I have a load of respect for Rian doing what he did. He made choices in this movie not to be popular or do what he thinks everyone wanted him to do. He made these choices for the purposes of amazing story telling and challenging not only his audience, but the characters within his story.
Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII: The Last Jedi -spoilers start 3
Posted: Tue December 19, 2017 10:21 pm
by Sgt. Crackpot
The sad thing is that a good portion of the audience don't like to be challenged. They want an easy story.
Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII: The Last Jedi -spoilers start 3
Posted: Tue December 19, 2017 10:23 pm
by Anders
stip wrote:VinylGuy wrote:Joe is getting anxious with all these opinions.
No one is arguing with your opinions. We are arguing with your apparent fundamental misunderstanding of the text
It’s the difference between not liking betterman because you don’t care for the melody and not liking betterman because you think it’s an upbeat affirmation of two people’s enduring love
That's the most arrogant thing I've read in this thread.
And it's competing with a lot like this:
Sgt. Crackpot wrote:The sad thing is that a good portion of the audience don't like to be challenged. They want an easy story.