Red Mosquito

Strat wrote:

harmless wrote:

Tuolumne wrote:

harmless wrote:"your whole tone for anticipating the album is "I want this" and "something that sounds like this song would be great". You sound like someone operating a jukebox."

If that's not unnecessarily confrontational, I really don't know what is.

Here's what sounds unneccesarily confrontational: "go away".

You'll live. I could've been ruder about it. I want you to stop assuming I'm being negative about the new album based on zero evidence. Or if you can't do that, yes, go away. Please.

Man alive, you need a hug.

harmless wrote:

Tuolumne wrote:

harmless wrote:"your whole tone for anticipating the album is "I want this" and "something that sounds like this song would be great". You sound like someone operating a jukebox."

If that's not unnecessarily confrontational, I really don't know what is.

Here's what sounds unneccesarily confrontational: "go away".

You'll live. I could've been ruder about it. I want you to stop assuming I'm being negative about the new album based on zero evidence. Or if you can't do that, yes, go away. Please.

Strat wrote:

IlluminEddie wrote:I think Matt Cameron is an OK drummer, who's style is not well suited for PJ.

As for a songwriter, just my opinion, but I think he's absolute garbage. By far the worst in the band. That said, he came up with one great tune: Cropduster. I'll give him credit for that.

The songs he's written (solo) outside of that all blow - Evacuation, You Are, Get Right and In the Moonlight.

I'll give him a bit of credit for his parts in Unemployable, Save You, and Johnny Guitar.... and even The Fixer is also mediocre (musically, lyrics suck). But, who knows how involved he was in each. To me, I feel like I know exactly what he contributed. I can hear it.

You can tell immediately when it's a Matt Cameron song (or if he was involved in writing) because it's schizophrenic rhythmically on guitar. In my opinion Evacuation describes his writing style. It's all over the place. I kinda wish he never joined PJ. I think they'd be a better band.

This made me sick to my stomach. Go away.

Strat wrote:

IlluminEddie wrote:I think Matt Cameron is an OK drummer, who's style is not well suited for PJ.

As for a songwriter, just my opinion, but I think he's absolute garbage. By far the worst in the band. That said, he came up with one great tune: Cropduster. I'll give him credit for that.

The songs he's written (solo) outside of that all blow - Evacuation, You Are, Get Right and In the Moonlight.

I'll give him a bit of credit for his parts in Unemployable, Save You, and Johnny Guitar.... and even The Fixer is also mediocre (musically, lyrics suck). But, who knows how involved he was in each. To me, I feel like I know exactly what he contributed. I can hear it.

You can tell immediately when it's a Matt Cameron song (or if he was involved in writing) because it's schizophrenic rhythmically on guitar. In my opinion Evacuation describes his writing style. It's all over the place. I kinda wish he never joined PJ. I think they'd be a better band.

This made me sick to my stomach. Go away.

Strat wrote:

IlluminEddie wrote:I think Matt Cameron is an OK drummer, who's style is not well suited for PJ.

As for a songwriter, just my opinion, but I think he's absolute garbage. By far the worst in the band. That said, he came up with one great tune: Cropduster. I'll give him credit for that.

The songs he's written (solo) outside of that all blow - Evacuation, You Are, Get Right and In the Moonlight.

I'll give him a bit of credit for his parts in Unemployable, Save You, and Johnny Guitar.... and even The Fixer is also mediocre (musically, lyrics suck). But, who knows how involved he was in each. To me, I feel like I know exactly what he contributed. I can hear it.

You can tell immediately when it's a Matt Cameron song (or if he was involved in writing) because it's schizophrenic rhythmically on guitar. In my opinion Evacuation describes his writing style. It's all over the place. I kinda wish he never joined PJ. I think they'd be a better band.

This made me sick to my stomach. Go away.

EJ wrote:

harmless wrote:

Jaeti wrote:I think it's very possible that Lightning Bolt and Future Days will be, in general, two of the least-liked songs on the album. I think they'll be least representative of the mood as a whole. I think this album will feel a lot like Binaural, with a dash of Riot Act tossed in, and that this will be a very good recipe indeed.

Those, mixed with a little yield and a bit of Backspacer polish. This sounds really light, dark, straightforward, strange, slow, fast. Eclectic. I'm hoping for that, it seems like the best scenario for a rock band with a pop producer. If BO'B needs this record to have some pop in it, throw some darkness in and have loads of sounds disagreeing and clashing.

i.e. a logical extension of Backspacer. I think its going to be very difficult for them to escape that mold of tighter songwriting - and letting the songs breathe more. I speculate, at least, they've tried to do a bit of that with this album. But, the similarities will still be quite noticeable.

Strat wrote:

harmless wrote:

Tuolumne wrote:

harmless wrote:"your whole tone for anticipating the album is "I want this" and "something that sounds like this song would be great". You sound like someone operating a jukebox."

If that's not unnecessarily confrontational, I really don't know what is.

Here's what sounds unneccesarily confrontational: "go away".

You'll live. I could've been ruder about it. I want you to stop assuming I'm being negative about the new album based on zero evidence. Or if you can't do that, yes, go away. Please.

Man alive, you need a hug.

So, what I'm also hoping with this album, is that it will change the dynamic of the live show. If it is a little bit heavier/moodier than backspacer then perhaps songs from Binaural and Riot Act will find easier placement in the setlist.

I can see how the mood of Backspacer dictated how those shows/tours were. Fitting in with the whole light hearted celebratory vibe the band was going for....

Jaeti wrote:

EJ wrote:

harmless wrote:

Jaeti wrote:I think it's very possible that Lightning Bolt and Future Days will be, in general, two of the least-liked songs on the album. I think they'll be least representative of the mood as a whole. I think this album will feel a lot like Binaural, with a dash of Riot Act tossed in, and that this will be a very good recipe indeed.

Those, mixed with a little yield and a bit of Backspacer polish. This sounds really light, dark, straightforward, strange, slow, fast. Eclectic. I'm hoping for that, it seems like the best scenario for a rock band with a pop producer. If BO'B needs this record to have some pop in it, throw some darkness in and have loads of sounds disagreeing and clashing.

i.e. a logical extension of Backspacer. I think its going to be very difficult for them to escape that mold of tighter songwriting - and letting the songs breathe more. I speculate, at least, they've tried to do a bit of that with this album. But, the similarities will still be quite noticeable.

I dunno. I think it's actually not going to feel like a "logical extension of Backspacer."

harmless wrote:

warehouse wrote:

harmless wrote:

Tuolumne wrote:

harmless wrote:"your whole tone for anticipating the album is "I want this" and "something that sounds like this song would be great". You sound like someone operating a jukebox."

If that's not unnecessarily confrontational, I really don't know what is.

Here's what sounds unneccesarily confrontational: "go away".

You'll live. I could've been ruder about it. I want you to stop assuming I'm being negative about the new album based on zero evidence. Or if you can't do that, yes, go away. Please.

how about U stop being a dickhead?

Tuolumne wrote:

harmless wrote:

Tuolumne wrote:

harmless wrote:"your whole tone for anticipating the album is "I want this" and "something that sounds like this song would be great". You sound like someone operating a jukebox."

If that's not unnecessarily confrontational, I really don't know what is.

Here's what sounds unneccesarily confrontational: "go away".

You'll live. I could've been ruder about it. I want you to stop assuming I'm being negative about the new album based on zero evidence. Or if you can't do that, yes, go away. Please.

No, now I'll definitely stick around, simply because you're an irrational asshole. Read my first message to you again. I'm making my tone (people confuse tone alot around here, including me) VERY clear, it was from a respectful standpoint. I SPECIFICALLY SAID THAT so you wouldn't confuse the tone. On top of that, where am I saying exactly you're "being negative"? I'm simply providing a different viewpoint that you could take, or not. It must really suck to be a bitter jerk.

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

Mike wrote: Ed talked mostly, but the projector was really dark and the sound quality
not that good so that we couldn't understand anything.

That's because it probably wasn't an Eddie Vedder projector.

Jaeti wrote:

Strat wrote:

harmless wrote:

Tuolumne wrote:

harmless wrote:"your whole tone for anticipating the album is "I want this" and "something that sounds like this song would be great". You sound like someone operating a jukebox."

If that's not unnecessarily confrontational, I really don't know what is.

Here's what sounds unneccesarily confrontational: "go away".

You'll live. I could've been ruder about it. I want you to stop assuming I'm being negative about the new album based on zero evidence. Or if you can't do that, yes, go away. Please.

Man alive, you need a hug.

So, what I'm also hoping with this album, is that it will change the dynamic of the live show. If it is a little bit heavier/moodier than backspacer then perhaps songs from Binaural and Riot Act will find easier placement in the setlist.

I can see how the mood of Backspacer dictated how those shows/tours were. Fitting in with the whole light hearted celebratory vibe the band was going for....

Yes. This.

HardTI wrote:

Cleverman wrote:

EJ wrote:

Cleverman wrote:
I like Matt songs but can't think of any in the PJ catalog that are essential, but it's still early

These 2 are essential, at least for my ears:
Cropduster
In The Moonlight

And In The Moonlight? Shit, yeah, I put my foot in my mouth on this one. Maybe I should be pissed he's not on the new record after all.

Evacuation really doesn't get enough love either. That might be my favorite of his PJ songs.

IlluminEddie wrote:

Strat wrote:

IlluminEddie wrote:I think Matt Cameron is an OK drummer, who's style is not well suited for PJ.

As for a songwriter, just my opinion, but I think he's absolute garbage. By far the worst in the band. That said, he came up with one great tune: Cropduster. I'll give him credit for that.

The songs he's written (solo) outside of that all blow - Evacuation, You Are, Get Right and In the Moonlight.

I'll give him a bit of credit for his parts in Unemployable, Save You, and Johnny Guitar.... and even The Fixer is also mediocre (musically, lyrics suck). But, who knows how involved he was in each. To me, I feel like I know exactly what he contributed. I can hear it.

You can tell immediately when it's a Matt Cameron song (or if he was involved in writing) because it's schizophrenic rhythmically on guitar. In my opinion Evacuation describes his writing style. It's all over the place. I kinda wish he never joined PJ. I think they'd be a better band.

This made me sick to my stomach. Go away.

Get some Pepto.

He's a terrible songwriter - it's a fact. The band's worse, since he's joined.

harmless wrote:

IlluminEddie wrote:

Strat wrote:

IlluminEddie wrote:I think Matt Cameron is an OK drummer, who's style is not well suited for PJ.

As for a songwriter, just my opinion, but I think he's absolute garbage. By far the worst in the band. That said, he came up with one great tune: Cropduster. I'll give him credit for that.

The songs he's written (solo) outside of that all blow - Evacuation, You Are, Get Right and In the Moonlight.

I'll give him a bit of credit for his parts in Unemployable, Save You, and Johnny Guitar.... and even The Fixer is also mediocre (musically, lyrics suck). But, who knows how involved he was in each. To me, I feel like I know exactly what he contributed. I can hear it.

You can tell immediately when it's a Matt Cameron song (or if he was involved in writing) because it's schizophrenic rhythmically on guitar. In my opinion Evacuation describes his writing style. It's all over the place. I kinda wish he never joined PJ. I think they'd be a better band.

This made me sick to my stomach. Go away.

Get some Pepto.

He's a terrible songwriter - it's a fact. The band's worse, since he's joined.

Your 'facts' are pretty much my favourite thing about this board.

Mike wrote:
Excitement: Rising.