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Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Tue April 23, 2019 2:34 pm
by Monkey_Driven
Simple Torture wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:You forgot Podrick's penis.
Please call it Pod's Rod from now on.
Deal.

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Tue April 23, 2019 2:44 pm
by Anders
Simple Torture wrote:Are these all the named living characters at the Battle of Winterfell? Is there anyone I'm missing?

Jon, Dany, Sansa, Arya, Bran, Jaime, Tyrion, Brienne, Pod, Davos, Sam, Edd, Tormund, The Hound, Beric, Gendry, Gilly, Little Sam, Jorah, Missandei, Grey Worm, Varys, Drogon, Rhaegal, Theon, Lyanna, Ghost
Yohn Royce, Maester Wolkan, Alys Karstark, Fergus, Qhono

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Tue April 23, 2019 2:54 pm
by Simple Torture
Anders wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:Are these all the named living characters at the Battle of Winterfell? Is there anyone I'm missing?

Jon, Dany, Sansa, Arya, Bran, Jaime, Tyrion, Brienne, Pod, Davos, Sam, Edd, Tormund, The Hound, Beric, Gendry, Gilly, Little Sam, Jorah, Missandei, Grey Worm, Varys, Drogon, Rhaegal, Theon, Lyanna, Ghost
Yohn Royce, Maester Wolkan, Alys Karstark, Fergus, Qhono
:nice:

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Tue April 23, 2019 2:56 pm
by Monkey_Driven
I'm going to name my future kid Yohn.

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Tue April 23, 2019 3:51 pm
by Simple Torture
Battle of Winterfell prediction mini-game in the Season 8 Predictions thread: http://forums.theskyiscrape.com/viewtop ... 3#p1335413

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Tue April 23, 2019 5:47 pm
by dimejinky99
Chud? You here?

Why hasn’t anyone (Jon or Dany) thought of going to the night kings lair and destroying the henge of standing crystals with the altar in the Center? The one back in season four when he turns the baby. Maybe that’s where his power comes from?

And what’s the point in turning a baby? It can’t grow up then can it?

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Tue April 23, 2019 6:43 pm
by Mecca
dimejinky99 wrote:Chud? You here?

Why hasn’t anyone (Jon or Dany) thought of going to the night kings lair and destroying the henge of standing crystals with the altar in the Center? The one back in season four when he turns the baby. Maybe that’s where his power comes from?

And what’s the point in turning a baby? It can’t grow up then can it?
There’s a lot unknown about the actual nature of the walkers and why Craster’s sons were important to them

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Tue April 23, 2019 6:54 pm
by dimejinky99
Mecca wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:Chud? You here?

Why hasn’t anyone (Jon or Dany) thought of going to the night kings lair and destroying the henge of standing crystals with the altar in the Center? The one back in season four when he turns the baby. Maybe that’s where his power comes from?

And what’s the point in turning a baby? It can’t grow up then can it?
There’s a lot unknown about the actual nature of the walkers and why Craster’s sons were important to them
So it seems. I hope it’s explained. One of Martins on the long finger never will happen projects no doubt

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Tue April 23, 2019 7:18 pm
by Simple Torture
dimejinky99 wrote:One of Martins on the long finger never will happen projects no doubt
I know what you mean.

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Tue April 23, 2019 7:34 pm
by kreng
Mecca wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:Chud? You here?

Why hasn’t anyone (Jon or Dany) thought of going to the night kings lair and destroying the henge of standing crystals with the altar in the Center? The one back in season four when he turns the baby. Maybe that’s where his power comes from?

And what’s the point in turning a baby? It can’t grow up then can it?
There’s a lot unknown about the actual nature of the walkers and why Craster’s sons were important to them
maybe the NK just want's baby Sam, as that's Craster's son.

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Tue April 23, 2019 9:01 pm
by Chris_H_2
dimejinky99 wrote:Chud? You here?

Why hasn’t anyone (Jon or Dany) thought of going to the night kings lair and destroying the henge of standing crystals with the altar in the Center? The one back in season four when he turns the baby. Maybe that’s where his power comes from?
When did they find out about that?

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Tue April 23, 2019 9:10 pm
by Simple Torture
dimejinky99 wrote:Chud? You here?

Why hasn’t anyone (Jon or Dany) thought of going to the night kings lair and destroying the henge of standing crystals with the altar in the Center? The one back in season four when he turns the baby. Maybe that’s where his power comes from?

And what’s the point in turning a baby? It can’t grow up then can it?
That scene where we apparently see the Night King turning a baby into a White Walker in the Lands of Always Winter does not have an analogue in the book--up until the final published (final?) book in the series, we haven't seen anything like that because we can't, as every chapter is the POV of a human character, so there would be no way to observe the scene. There is also no character that matches up with the Night King exactly (although there is a Night's King).

Perhaps the Others' powers do come from someplace else in the books, but in the show I think we are meant to assume that it arises out of the same naturalistic magic/religion that powered the Children and is known to the Northerners as the Old Gods. The arrangement of those stones in the far, far north is meant to evoke the shapes the Children arranged their stones in during the White Walker creation scene (just as the way the White Walkers' arrangement of bodies does), even though we were still two seasons away from seeing it. The Children screwed up and created a race of beings that is just as powerful as them but is driven by revenge as opposed to the unselfish (to the point of unfeeling) stewardship that the Children represent.

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Tue April 23, 2019 9:31 pm
by dimejinky99
Simple Torture wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:Chud? You here?

Why hasn’t anyone (Jon or Dany) thought of going to the night kings lair and destroying the henge of standing crystals with the altar in the Center? The one back in season four when he turns the baby. Maybe that’s where his power comes from?

And what’s the point in turning a baby? It can’t grow up then can it?
That scene where we apparently see the Night King turning a baby into a White Walker in the Lands of Always Winter does not have an analogue in the book--up until the final published (final?) book in the series, we haven't seen anything like that because we can't, as every chapter is the POV of a human character, so there would be no way to observe the scene. There is also no character that matches up with the Night King exactly (although there is a Night's King).

Perhaps the Others' powers do come from someplace else in the books, but in the show I think we are meant to assume that it arises out of the same naturalistic magic/religion that powered the Children and is known to the Northerners as the Old Gods. The arrangement of those stones in the far, far north is meant to evoke the shapes the Children arranged their stones in during the White Walker creation scene (just as the way the White Walkers' arrangement of bodies does), even though we were still two seasons away from seeing it. The Children screwed up and created a race of beings that is just as powerful as them but is driven by revenge as opposed to the unselfish (to the point of unfeeling) stewardship that the Children represent.

That was my kinda answer. Thank you ST

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Tue April 23, 2019 9:43 pm
by dimejinky99
These are brilliant. The history of Westeros. Short animated bits. All narrated by cast mehttps://youtu.be/-y3vLQ-dcSQmbers in character. Well worth a watch if you haven’t.


Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Wed April 24, 2019 2:57 am
by dimejinky99
:haha:

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Wed April 24, 2019 3:27 am
by Bammer
dimejinky99 wrote::haha:
Watched what? Her CGI’d body double?

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Wed April 24, 2019 9:25 am
by dimejinky99
Body double or not all the stuff(not outrage but not far away from it) about her in that scene is so laughable.

It’s been 8 seasons of rape and incest and this bothered them? A girl chosing her moment to lose her virginity and owning and controlling the situation.

It’s all rather odd.

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Wed April 24, 2019 10:12 am
by dimejinky99
Could Mellisandre turn out to be the hero once all his? Maybe she’s been gathering up other fire priestesses to come for the final battle? She did say to Varis she and he both would die in Westeros

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Wed April 24, 2019 1:57 pm
by Chris_H_2
I still don't understand why Bran just doesn't pull his three-eyed raven trick of looking into the past to see how the white walkers were defeated the first go around.

also, i missed it (and it's probably been explained before), but did the walkers just hibernate for 1000 years? how did they come back? were they buried in ice (I think I remember reading this somewhere)? were they really defeated the first time if they were able to resurrect themselves?

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Wed April 24, 2019 2:05 pm
by doone
all good questions