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Re: What Happened?
Posted: Tue March 20, 2018 7:03 pm
by bodysnatcher
Monkey_Driven wrote:digster wrote:PHATJ wrote:Wasn’t Let it Ride from the RA sessions?
I believe Cold Confession and Let it Ride were part of the first sessions for S/T.
Those songs are both stellar; the end of Let it Ride in particular is one of my favorite PJ moments, especially post-Riot Act.

yeah, just listened to Let It Ride for the first time in a couple of years, and that ending is magnificient
Re: What Happened?
Posted: Tue March 20, 2018 7:05 pm
by tree_
EJ wrote:tree_ wrote:Monkey_Driven wrote:E.H. Ruddock wrote:PHATJ wrote:It’s so much better than anything from the last two albums, and most of S/T.
And Let it Ride is pretty solid as well.
I actually prefer Let it Ride, but both are top notch.
I can see the potential but Eddie sounds terrible. Downtune that shit for the poor guy.
No way. He's great in it.
He should sing in a way that doesn't sound like he's straining to hit notes, in a way that doesn't make me cringe. NAIS, for example. Good range for Eddie. The problem with that song, though is that it doesn't develop into anything interesting.
Re: What Happened?
Posted: Tue March 20, 2018 7:06 pm
by PHATJ
Bad take of Let it Ride, tree.
Re: What Happened?
Posted: Tue March 20, 2018 7:08 pm
by bodysnatcher
E.H. Ruddock wrote:PHATJ wrote:Wasn’t Let it Ride from the RA sessions?
They leaked from the same disc, so I was just assuming they were from the same era.
BTW, would love to get my hands on the rest of those songs...
yeah, according to sources they both came from the first S/T session, right after they recorded "Someday at Christmas".
"Let It Ride" was done again in studio a few months later. don't know which version we have available.
December 2004 Studio X – Seattle, WA
2×4
Of The Earth
Cold Confession
World Wide Suicide
Marker
Armor
Crapshoot Rapture
Let It Ride
The Bigger The Wave
Re: What Happened?
Posted: Tue March 20, 2018 7:09 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
I remember the person that leaked those two to us apparently had a disc with like 11 songs on it. I'd paypal him like ten bucks if he could send me the rest of the songs.
Re: What Happened?
Posted: Tue March 20, 2018 7:09 pm
by Monkey_Driven
bodysnatcher wrote:E.H. Ruddock wrote:PHATJ wrote:Wasn’t Let it Ride from the RA sessions?
They leaked from the same disc, so I was just assuming they were from the same era.
BTW, would love to get my hands on the rest of those songs...
yeah, according to sources they both came from the first S/T session, right after they recorded "Someday at Christmas".
"Let It Ride" was done again in studio a few months later. don't know which version we have available.
December 2004 Studio X – Seattle, WA
2×4
Of The Earth
Cold Confession
World Wide Suicide
Marker
Armor
Crapshoot Rapture
Let It Ride
The Bigger The Wave
That's a pretty rocking session.

Re: What Happened?
Posted: Tue March 20, 2018 7:10 pm
by tree_
PHATJ wrote:Bad take of Let it Ride, tree.
Do you have one where he's not grating?
Re: What Happened?
Posted: Tue March 20, 2018 7:11 pm
by bodysnatcher
man, even Backspacer had some songs from their sessions that weren't used. Lightning Bolt had nothing other than what's on the album

Re: What Happened?
Posted: Tue March 20, 2018 7:11 pm
by Monkey_Driven
bodysnatcher wrote:man, even Backspacer had some songs from their sessions that weren't used. Lightning Bolt had nothing other than what's on the album

Do we know that for a fact?
Re: What Happened?
Posted: Tue March 20, 2018 7:12 pm
by EJ
tree_ wrote:PHATJ wrote:Bad take of Let it Ride, tree.
Do you have one where he's not grating?
It is also just an unreleased demo/outtake. And, for what it is, its pretty fantastic.
Re: What Happened?
Posted: Tue March 20, 2018 7:14 pm
by tree_
EJ wrote:tree_ wrote:PHATJ wrote:Bad take of Let it Ride, tree.
Do you have one where he's not grating?
It is also just an unreleased demo/outtake. And, for what it is, its pretty fantastic.
I admit it proves the point they're capable of more, even in this dark age of lethargy.
Re: What Happened?
Posted: Tue March 20, 2018 7:14 pm
by PHATJ
tree_ wrote:PHATJ wrote:Bad take of Let it Ride, tree.
Do you have one where he's not grating?
I meant that I disagree with your opinion.
Re: What Happened?
Posted: Tue March 20, 2018 7:15 pm
by PHATJ
tree_ wrote:EJ wrote:tree_ wrote:PHATJ wrote:Bad take of Let it Ride, tree.
Do you have one where he's not grating?
It is also just an unreleased demo/outtake. And, for what it is, its pretty fantastic.
I admit it proves the point they're capable of more, even in this dark age of lethargy.
These songs are over a decade old. Almost a decade and a half!
Re: What Happened?
Posted: Tue March 20, 2018 7:16 pm
by bodysnatcher
Monkey_Driven wrote:bodysnatcher wrote:man, even Backspacer had some songs from their sessions that weren't used. Lightning Bolt had nothing other than what's on the album

Do we know that for a fact?
it came from the recording sessions site that seems to be (somehow, and creepily) accurate. of course, these might not count other sessions they might have had at private home studios, etc
Re: What Happened?
Posted: Tue March 20, 2018 7:16 pm
by EJ
tree_ wrote:EJ wrote:tree_ wrote:PHATJ wrote:Bad take of Let it Ride, tree.
Do you have one where he's not grating?
It is also just an unreleased demo/outtake. And, for what it is, its pretty fantastic.
I admit it proves the point they're capable of more, even in this dark age of lethargy.
The well is dry. Thus, the mining of an already released song: Sleeping By Myself.
Re: What Happened?
Posted: Tue March 20, 2018 7:17 pm
by PHATJ
bodysnatcher wrote:E.H. Ruddock wrote:PHATJ wrote:Wasn’t Let it Ride from the RA sessions?
They leaked from the same disc, so I was just assuming they were from the same era.
BTW, would love to get my hands on the rest of those songs...
yeah, according to sources they both came from the first S/T session, right after they recorded "Someday at Christmas".
"Let It Ride" was done again in studio a few months later. don't know which version we have available.
December 2004 Studio X – Seattle, WA
2×4
Of The Earth
Cold Confession
World Wide Suicide
Marker
Armor
Crapshoot Rapture
Let It Ride
The Bigger The Wave
Thanks ‘snatch.
Re: What Happened?
Posted: Tue March 20, 2018 7:18 pm
by tree_
PHATJ wrote:tree_ wrote:EJ wrote:tree_ wrote:PHATJ wrote:Bad take of Let it Ride, tree.
Do you have one where he's not grating?
It is also just an unreleased demo/outtake. And, for what it is, its pretty fantastic.
I admit it proves the point they're capable of more, even in this dark age of lethargy.
These songs are over a decade old.
But it shows they have bright ideas at least once in a while to which, for one reason or another, they don't follow through. They must have a specific formula they believe will sell records to an adhering fan base who just won't have the likes of these songs. And when lethargic and formulaic, creativity and effort is the enemy.
Re: What Happened?
Posted: Tue March 20, 2018 7:18 pm
by PHATJ
PHATJ wrote:bodysnatcher wrote:E.H. Ruddock wrote:PHATJ wrote:Wasn’t Let it Ride from the RA sessions?
They leaked from the same disc, so I was just assuming they were from the same era.
BTW, would love to get my hands on the rest of those songs...
yeah, according to sources they both came from the first S/T session, right after they recorded "Someday at Christmas".
"Let It Ride" was done again in studio a few months later. don't know which version we have available.
December 2004 Studio X – Seattle, WA
2×4
Of The Earth
Cold Confession
World Wide Suicide
Marker
Armor
Crapshoot Rapture
Let It Ride
The Bigger The Wave
Thanks ‘snatch.
Maybe I was just remembering people saying it sounded like a RA song. Who knows. Maybe I just made that up because I think it sounds like a RA song. Cropduster, anyone?
Re: What Happened?
Posted: Tue March 20, 2018 7:19 pm
by PHATJ
tree_ wrote:PHATJ wrote:tree_ wrote:EJ wrote:tree_ wrote:PHATJ wrote:Bad take of Let it Ride, tree.
Do you have one where he's not grating?
It is also just an unreleased demo/outtake. And, for what it is, its pretty fantastic.
I admit it proves the point they're capable of more, even in this dark age of lethargy.
These songs are over a decade old.
But it shows they have bright ideas at least once in a while to which, for one reason or another, they don't follow through. They must have a specific formula they believe will sell records to an adhering fan base who just won't have the likes of these songs.
And when lethargic and formulaic, creativity and effort is the enemy.
Welcome to the club.
Re: What Happened?
Posted: Tue March 20, 2018 7:19 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
tree_ wrote:PHATJ wrote:tree_ wrote:EJ wrote:tree_ wrote:PHATJ wrote:Bad take of Let it Ride, tree.
Do you have one where he's not grating?
It is also just an unreleased demo/outtake. And, for what it is, its pretty fantastic.
I admit it proves the point they're capable of more, even in this dark age of lethargy.
These songs are over a decade old.
But it shows they have bright ideas at least once in a while to which, for one reason or another, they don't follow through. They must have a specific formula they believe will sell records to an adhering fan base who just won't have the likes of these songs. And when lethargic and formulaic, creativity and effort is the enemy.
No, it proves they used to. Nothing in the past 12 years says they still do