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Re: Sharing Cinematic Values #6: tragabigzanda
Posted: Fri March 30, 2018 4:11 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Re: Sharing Cinematic Values #6: tragabigzanda
Posted: Fri March 30, 2018 4:19 pm
by epilogue
tragabigzanda wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:I'm glad that we have posters here on RM who are so much smarter and understand other film makers stories and influences better than those film makers. Thank god, someone around here is smarter than JJ Abrams.
I appreciate your joke here, because I do sometimes feel silly criticizing anything that I couldn't do myself. But the opinion of the consumer is just as valid as that of the creator, despite their different frames of reference. And while Abrams is obviously "smart" and understand both the techniques and the business side of filmmaking, that doesn't negate the fact that his big-budget spectacles often fail to make an emotional connection with many viewers.
I would never intentionally imply otherwise.
Re: Sharing Cinematic Values #6: tragabigzanda
Posted: Fri March 30, 2018 4:25 pm
by epilogue
tragabigzanda wrote:VinylGuy wrote:Trag“s voice reminds me of Steve Albini.
I've purposefully tried to model my speech patterns, for certain situations, after Steve Albini and Ralph Nader. They each have a way of speaking to an issue without overly coloring their words with emotion, and I've always admired that quality. Wish I could do it without so much "umm"ing and "uhh"ing though.
Fascinating.
Re: Sharing Cinematic Values #6: tragabigzanda
Posted: Thu April 19, 2018 7:35 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Re: Sharing Cinematic Values #6: tragabigzanda
Posted: Thu April 19, 2018 7:50 pm
by VinylGuy
Oh i love Swingers so much. Its a film that got kinda lost right? I also love Made, the follow up that Favreau did.
Yeah, you know...i was thinking about what authenticity means for film for example...its tricky. I had a discussion about that the other day, about how you need to do you your stuff instead of copy whatever is in vogue these days, about genuine love for the craft, about doing something honest or just wait and copy what you think could work.
Re: Sharing Cinematic Values #6: tragabigzanda
Posted: Thu April 19, 2018 8:03 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Re: Sharing Cinematic Values #6: tragabigzanda
Posted: Thu April 19, 2018 8:56 pm
by VinylGuy
It was a big thing back in the day for sure, but its should get more praise.
Made is fun.