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Re: Live Long and Prosper; the Trek Thread

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 8:06 am
by BurtReynolds
oh god it's a Wesley episode.

Re: Live Long and Prosper; the Trek Thread

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 12:00 pm
by bada
Wesley got with the cutest girl on Star Trek. Bastard.

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Re: Live Long and Prosper; the Trek Thread

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 7:23 pm
by BurtReynolds
It was kinda weird following up a very kiddie Wesley episode with the intro to the Borg, but that one is still pretty great.

Re: Live Long and Prosper; the Trek Thread

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 7:24 pm
by BurtReynolds
bada wrote:Wesley got with the cutest girl on Star Trek. Bastard.

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I bet they hugged all night.

Re: Live Long and Prosper; the Trek Thread

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 7:24 pm
by epilogue
All that Traveler stuff with Wesley was so badass.

Re: Live Long and Prosper; the Trek Thread

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 8:26 pm
by BurtReynolds
god Pulaski is the worst.

Re: Live Long and Prosper; the Trek Thread

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 8:26 pm
by LoathedVermin72
BurtReynolds wrote:god Pulaski is the worst.
Yeah.

Re: Live Long and Prosper; the Trek Thread

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 8:27 pm
by epilogue
BurtReynolds wrote:god Pulaski is the worst.
Right? Stupid studio. They should never be allowed to make creative decisions.

Re: Live Long and Prosper; the Trek Thread

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 8:28 pm
by LoathedVermin72
durdencommatyler wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:god Pulaski is the worst.
Right? Stupid studio. They should never be allowed to make creative decisions.
I don't recall that being a studio decision. I thought it was showrunners/producers?

Re: Live Long and Prosper; the Trek Thread

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 8:31 pm
by BurtReynolds
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:god Pulaski is the worst.
Right? Stupid studio. They should never be allowed to make creative decisions.
I don't recall that being a studio decision. I thought it was showrunners/producers?
There was some kind of backstage shenanigans going on but I've never been very clear on it.

Re: Live Long and Prosper; the Trek Thread

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 8:33 pm
by epilogue
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:god Pulaski is the worst.
Right? Stupid studio. They should never be allowed to make creative decisions.
I don't recall that being a studio decision. I thought it was showrunners/producers?
Maybe. I thought it was Roddenberry and the Producers who didn't like the direction the character was moving in, they chose to replace her. Patrick Stewart was pissed. They realized their mistake and brought her back for S2.

By Studio I meant Producers.

Re: Live Long and Prosper; the Trek Thread

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 8:34 pm
by LoathedVermin72
durdencommatyler wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:god Pulaski is the worst.
Right? Stupid studio. They should never be allowed to make creative decisions.
I don't recall that being a studio decision. I thought it was showrunners/producers?
Maybe. I thought it was Roddenberry and the Producers who didn't like the direction the character was moving in, they chose to replace her. Patrick Stewart was pissed. They realized their mistake and brought her back for S2.

By Studio I meant Producers.
Man I wish Roddenberry were around today. :(

Re: Live Long and Prosper; the Trek Thread

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 8:35 pm
by epilogue
I found this on some random message board just now:
Another explanation arises from an April/May 1994 story published in Star Trek the Official Fan Club Magazine. The story claims that McFadden attempted to renegotiate her contract at the end of The Next Generation’s first season. Although this may be a reasonable ploy for an actor on a hit series, Paramount refused to meet her demands and removed her from the program. The article also claims that when McFadden returned to Star Trek, it was at a lower salary than the rest of her co-stars.
Read more: http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread ... z49bjWxW9k

Re: Live Long and Prosper; the Trek Thread

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 8:36 pm
by LoathedVermin72
durdencommatyler wrote:I found this on some random message board just now:
Another explanation arises from an April/May 1994 story published in Star Trek the Official Fan Club Magazine. The story claims that McFadden attempted to renegotiate her contract at the end of The Next Generation’s first season. Although this may be a reasonable ploy for an actor on a hit series, Paramount refused to meet her demands and removed her from the program. The article also claims that when McFadden returned to Star Trek, it was at a lower salary than the rest of her co-stars.
Read more: http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread ... z49bjWxW9k
Ah okay, that does sound familiar now, actually.

Re: Live Long and Prosper; the Trek Thread

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 8:36 pm
by epilogue
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:god Pulaski is the worst.
Right? Stupid studio. They should never be allowed to make creative decisions.
I don't recall that being a studio decision. I thought it was showrunners/producers?
Maybe. I thought it was Roddenberry and the Producers who didn't like the direction the character was moving in, they chose to replace her. Patrick Stewart was pissed. They realized their mistake and brought her back for S2.

By Studio I meant Producers.
Man I wish Roddenberry were around today. :(
Me too.

Re: Live Long and Prosper; the Trek Thread

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 8:37 pm
by LoathedVermin72
durdencommatyler wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:god Pulaski is the worst.
Right? Stupid studio. They should never be allowed to make creative decisions.
I don't recall that being a studio decision. I thought it was showrunners/producers?
Maybe. I thought it was Roddenberry and the Producers who didn't like the direction the character was moving in, they chose to replace her. Patrick Stewart was pissed. They realized their mistake and brought her back for S2.

By Studio I meant Producers.
Man I wish Roddenberry were around today. :(
Me too.
His mind turned me into an optimist. I wanna find that again.

Re: Live Long and Prosper; the Trek Thread

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 8:39 pm
by bada
They tried to set Pulaski up as Bones to Data's Spock. There were a few episodes were it worked.

Re: Live Long and Prosper; the Trek Thread

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 8:41 pm
by LoathedVermin72
bada wrote:They tried to set Pulaski up as Bones to Data's Spock. There were a few episodes were it worked.
You think so? I always found her insufferably shrill, almost mean, even. Icy. Bones had a red-blooded passion and warmth that made him endearing.

Re: Live Long and Prosper; the Trek Thread

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 8:43 pm
by LoathedVermin72
That's actually interesting, now that I think about it: Data never had any great foil on the crew like Spock did with Bones because of Roddenberry's mandate that no one be hot-headed or adversarial.

Re: Live Long and Prosper; the Trek Thread

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 8:45 pm
by bada
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
bada wrote:They tried to set Pulaski up as Bones to Data's Spock. There were a few episodes were it worked.
You think so? I always found her insufferably shrill, almost mean, even. Icy. Bones had a red-blooded passion and warmth that made him endearing.
The character wasn't anywhere as good as Bones but I think that was the intention...and yes she was really mean to Data.