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tragabigzanda wrote:i'm at peace with the impermanent nature of life

How miserable would things be if it was any other way?

Bi_3 wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:i'm at peace with the impermanent nature of life

How miserable would things be if it was any other way?

Are you asking how miserable life would be were it not impermanent? Or are you asking how miserable life would be if one were anything other than at peace with life's impermanence?

durdencommatyler wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:i'm at peace with the impermanent nature of life

How miserable would things be if it was any other way?

Are you asking how miserable life would be were it not impermanent? Or are you asking how miserable life would be if one were anything other than at peace with life's impermanence?

They are not entirely separable questions

Bi_3 wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:i'm at peace with the impermanent nature of life

How miserable would things be if it was any other way?

Are you asking how miserable life would be were it not impermanent? Or are you asking how miserable life would be if one were anything other than at peace with life's impermanence?

They are not entirely separable questions

sigh

durdencommatyler wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:i'm at peace with the impermanent nature of life

How miserable would things be if it was any other way?

Are you asking how miserable life would be were it not impermanent? Or are you asking how miserable life would be if one were anything other than at peace with life's impermanence?

They are not entirely separable questions

sigh

You need to make with the reality that someday it will be over.

Bi_3 wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:i'm at peace with the impermanent nature of life

How miserable would things be if it was any other way?

Are you asking how miserable life would be were it not impermanent? Or are you asking how miserable life would be if one were anything other than at peace with life's impermanence?

They are not entirely separable questions

sigh

You need to make with the reality that someday it will be over.

Hey, trag... is it cool if I reply with "ok, bi" here? Or no?

durdencommatyler wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:i'm at peace with the impermanent nature of life

How miserable would things be if it was any other way?

Are you asking how miserable life would be were it not impermanent? Or are you asking how miserable life would be if one were anything other than at peace with life's impermanence?

They are not entirely separable questions

sigh

You need to make with the reality that someday it will be over.

Hey, trag... is it cool if I reply with "ok, bi" here? Or no?

Joseph, let me help you

tragabigzanda wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:i'm at peace with the impermanent nature of life

How miserable would things be if it was any other way?

Are you asking how miserable life would be were it not impermanent? Or are you asking how miserable life would be if one were anything other than at peace with life's impermanence?

They are not entirely separable questions

sigh

You need to make with the reality that someday it will be over.

Hey, trag... is it cool if I reply with "ok, bi" here? Or no?

ok joe

AL

Since Bi doesn't want to answer my question, I'll just say...

Re: how miserable life would be were it not impermanent... not at all. An infinite life would be fucking amazing.

Re: how miserable life would be if one were anything other than at peace with life's impermanence.... that would be god awful. Totally insufferable. People, please make peace with the fact that you're going to be worm food one day and there's a good chance that's the end of the line.

To quote Tyler Durden, "you have to know -- not fear -- know that someday you're gonna die."

I would love for my life to be infinite. I really, truly genuinely would. But having said that, I have no fear or concern about death. I will die someday. And I'm good with that.

tragabigzanda wrote:really not scared of death, but terrified of the potential phase where i'm shutting myself and babbling incoherently

I can get on board with this, yeah. Going crazy or losing my mind/recognition/control of body is far more terrifying than death, to me.

durdencommatyler wrote:Since Bi doesn't want to answer my question, I'll just say...

Re: how miserable life would be were it not impermanent... not at all. An infinite life would be fucking amazing.

Re: how miserable life would be if one were anything other than at peace with life's impermanence.... that would be god awful. Totally insufferable. People, please make peace with the fact that you're going to be worm food one day and there's a good chance that's the end of the line.

To quote Tyler Durden, "you have to know -- not fear -- know that someday you're gonna die."

I would love for my life to be infinite. I really, truly genuinely would. But having said that, I have no fear or concern about death. I will die someday. And I'm good with that.

I'll answer, but trag's point is important. When we think of 'infinite life', we frame it in the media fueled world of sexy vampires who are perpetually 27, healthy, f*ckable, and always having new adventures. But that works because the world changes around them through death and birth and evolution... all things that would be lost if life was infinite. Unless you meant your life was infinite and everyone else dies which itself would be a form of suffering because you would always be saying goodbye to those around you, eventually losing any emotional connection to anything other than whatever you choose to do to try and alleviate boredom.

For the second, I doubt anyone is truly at peace in their last few moments, even if they are loaded with sedatives and surrounded by their loved ones. But the acceptance of the inevitable is crucial for understanding the power of your individual actions and choices with the time you still have.

"The future is what you make of it. Just know that your supplies are limited." -Joseph Fink

It's fine that life is impermanent, but the imminent end of all life is scary and sad. I'm not troubled by my anticipated death in 60 years, but everyone dying in 200 years depresses me

Bi_3 wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:Since Bi doesn't want to answer my question, I'll just say...

Re: how miserable life would be were it not impermanent... not at all. An infinite life would be fucking amazing.

Re: how miserable life would be if one were anything other than at peace with life's impermanence.... that would be god awful. Totally insufferable. People, please make peace with the fact that you're going to be worm food one day and there's a good chance that's the end of the line.

To quote Tyler Durden, "you have to know -- not fear -- know that someday you're gonna die."

I would love for my life to be infinite. I really, truly genuinely would. But having said that, I have no fear or concern about death. I will die someday. And I'm good with that.

I'll answer, but trag's point is important. When we think of 'infinite life', we frame it in the media fueled world of sexy vampires who are perpetually 27, healthy, f*ckable, and always having new adventures. But that works because the world changes around them through death and birth and evolution... all things that would be lost if life was infinite. Unless you meant your life was infinite and everyone else dies which itself would be a form of suffering because you would always be saying goodbye to those around you, eventually losing any emotional connection to anything other than whatever you choose to do to try and alleviate boredom.

For the second, I doubt anyone is truly at peace in their last few moments, even if they are loaded with sedatives and surrounded by their loved ones. But the acceptance of the inevitable is crucial for understanding the power of your individual actions and choices with the time you still have.

"The future is what you make of it. Just know that your supplies are limited." -Joseph Fink

I've always disagreed with the notion you outline in your "your life was infinite and everyone else..." comment. That kind of thinking has never really held water for me.

And I won't argue with you about your second point because there's no way to ever know. But I probably disagree.

I acknowledge and respect our differences on this question

Did we... did we just win the internet?